[neverdem]

What kind of paper is the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, conservative, libertarian or just objective? IHMO, when I come across their writers, there's almost no liberal nonsense.

[HoosierHawk]

When it comes to liberals, objectivity breeds contempt.

[Steely Tom]

The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review is owned by Mellon Bank heir Richard Mellon Scaife. It is somewhat conservative in outlook.

[neverdem]

Global cooling ping in a major paper, IMHO.

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

Climate is what we expect, weather is what we get.

LAZARUS LONG

[steelyourfaith]

 

Beam me to Planet Gore !

[hugorand]

global warming might be greatly overblown

Overblown? Hoax works for me. A means to a global Socialist end.

[3niner]

Nobody can predict global temperature changes even five years ahead. There are cyclical aspects to these changes, but the cycles are so complex (with an apparent chaotic aspect), that it is simply unpredictable.

There is a major cycle, however, that will eventually prevail. Sometime in the next few thousand years (possibly in the next decade), we will start to enter the next ice age. The Earth will not get much warmer than it is right now, before the next ice age starts.

CO2 levels do not drive temperature changes, it is the other way around, with about a thousand year time lag. The current increases in CO2 have nothing to do with human activity, but rather are caused by the Midieval Warm Period. We have about 250 years to go on this cycle.

Our air is CO2 depleted right now. All Earthly plants have evolved to use CO2 levels 2 to 5 times higher than today's. When exposed to higher CO2 levels, plants grow faster and require less nutrients and water.

Crop yields have improved a lot over the last 150 years, largely due to improvements in technology, but a substantial portion of that improvement is due to rising CO2 levels.

Many scientists are well aware of these facts, but all the press goes to lying panic mongers who make a very good living by dispensing misinformation.

[cogitator]

Here's a link to the actual paper:

Has the climate recently shifted? (PDF)

Here are the paper's conclusions:

"Finally, it is vital to note that there is no comfort to be gained by having a climate with a significant degree of internal variability, even if it results in a near-term cessation of global warming. It is straightforward to argue that a climate with significant internal variability is a climate that is very sensitive to applied anthropogenic radiative anomalies (c.f. Roe [2009]). If the role of internal variability in the climate system is as large as this analysis would seem to suggest, warming over the 21st century may well be larger than that predicted by the current generation of models, given the propensity of those models to underestimate climate internal variability [Kravtsov and Spannagle 2008].

[TigersEye]

I said it here a couple of days ago; Beware of Global Stasis!

But I get the feeling these scientists don't know what 'stasis' means.

[BIGLOOK]

Your days and nights are colder than in years before. But what do remember from year to year, We remember holidays and get togethers, times that warm our spirits no matter the weather.

The Global Warming agenda proffers computer generated models that haven't matched any real time weather patterns in years. Edward Lorenz's theory was correct and like any theory, ambiguous. Reality cures most false notions pretty damn quickly but this one has legs.

Haven't seen much on the La Nina effect in the Pacific region, haven't seen reports from the navigation services that track hazards in the Atlantic and South Pacific that occur during calving in the respective summer months.

La Nina is here where I'm at. It's chilly and damp. It's been that way before and it'll be this way again in the future when the solar sun spot activity diminishes. We can't conrol the climate...and seems we can't control stupidity either.

Bringing this up because I saw the price tag on a new Chevy Volt. $40 grand for a mid size sedan. Figure in time to charge on your electric meter and the latest 'Cap and Trade' proposals from Obama and congress, this is out of reach for most home budgets. Maybe all.

[andyandval]

What kind of paper is the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review

Fellow FReeper Salena Zito writes for that paper.

So, Salena, what kind of paper is it?

:)

[Red Dog #1]

We chuckle about how our ancestors superstitious beliefs, but future generations won't think much better of us.

[xcamel]

FReepmail me to get on or off

Ping me if you find one I've missed.

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[uglybiker]

Can you say "global stasis" or "global cooling"?

Climate stagnation! Eeeeevil capitalists and their SUVs are preventing the climate from changing!

But it's nothing that a few trillion taxpayer dollars couldn't fix.

[Chode]

listen... warming, cooling, it was 50/50. so i took a shot!!!

Ohh WOE is me... whys everybody pickin on me???