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To: fremont_steve
No.

For every EDA, there's a Sun. (Sputter, sputter).

And for every "IQ of 300" Indian, there's a couple of Americans of equal talent who were edged aside; or went into another field.

Cheers!

81 posted on 04/06/2009 5:04:45 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

I’m afraid the EDA/Sun reference is lost on me. EDA - Electronic Design Automation. Sun certainly uses these products...but I don’t see the equivalence?

As for the bit about an Indian displacing an American. If you refer to jobs that have gone overseas. Sure - I won’t contest that occurs. If you are talking about the Indians who come here to work legally via one mechanism or another I don’t agree.

The problem with most of these arguments is that High Tech is mostly a meritocracy. People are paid what their talent demands.. Indian engineers working in the US are paid prevailing US wages.

Now if I’m an employer and I have two equally qualified applicants fresh out of school - one Indian and one a native born US citizen I’d pick the US citizen because in the long run he costs me less to employee. I don’t have to go through the green card process with him!

Further - most of these kids are coming here and taking post graduate degrees which were not filled by US applicants! The US doesn’t graduate that many native born engineers! With off-shoring becoming much more practical, the high tech jobs are disappearing as well. the lure of high paying jobs are going away, with less people choosing to go into engineer. (They are likely to become lawyers and run for congress instead..)

I hate to break this to you all, but this isn’t really caused by Government policy, but business making economic choices and the advent of cheap and efficient communications!

So - I don’t buy your bit about 1 for 2 displacement. I haven’t seen that in my career, and I’ve been in Silicon Valley as a working engineer for 25+ years now.


84 posted on 04/06/2009 5:58:51 PM PDT by fremont_steve (Milpitas - a great place to be FROM!)
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