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To: gondramB
I’m not sure this is good news. he seems to be saying that the reason temperatures have not been higher has been because of a temporary low in sunspots - that doesn’t mean CO2 isn’t still a big a factor.

That's EXACTLY what it means. If CO2 driven "greenhouse" warming were of the order of magnitude claimed by its zealots, the effect of the radiative changes in the sun would be of no cosequence to the earth's temperature, and global warming zealots would not be scrabling to cover their collective "assets."

And your gloss over of the fact of global COOLING (see your comment "the reason tempratures have not been higher") is pretty revealing as to your own personal agenda.

But, you are still good for a laugh from time to time.

12 posted on 04/15/2009 1:27:06 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: John Valentine

>>That’s EXACTLY what it means. If CO2 driven “greenhouse” warming were of the order of magnitude claimed by its zealots, the effect of the radiative changes in the sun would be of no cosequence to the earth’s temperature, and global warming zealots would not be scrabling to cover their collective “assets.”<<

The temperature increase is only a few degrees per century - its not surprising a local minimum in solar flares could slow that rise for a while.

But the ultimate measure is sea level. Warming will be over when the seas start going down and that had not happened.


15 posted on 04/15/2009 1:34:06 AM PDT by gondramB
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To: John Valentine

CO2 is a trace element in the atmosphere, with the latest estimate being about 380 parts per million. Water vapor is the most common greenhouse gas. Without greenhouse gases, the Earth would be too cold for humans.

But ask anyone if they think greenhouse gases are bad, and 99% will say “yes”, because most people are ignorant of scientific facts. Obama would like to keep people ignorant, so he can get “cap & trade” taxes. Those taxes, which would easily be several hundred billion dollars a year, would kill our economy.


33 posted on 04/15/2009 4:56:28 AM PDT by pleikumud
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