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To: Myrddin
There is no evidence for "global warming". The hoax is completely driven by the anti-capitalist ideology. Facts are irrelevant.

Actually, there WAS some global warming in the 1990's. It was NOT, however, the result of any human activity, just as the likely coming cooling period will not be, either.

That big old yellow-face that rise every morning will determine what our climate will be. In the 90's there were an abundance of sunspots, and we were warmer. Those sunspots have diminished since the end of the 90's, and the planet has been cooling steadily. At this point, there hasn't been a single sunspot in almost two months. If we end up having a sunspot minimum, similar to the Dalton Minimum in the late 1700s through the early 1800s, continues we could very well be headed for another Little Ice Age like the world experienced then.

SirKit and I have proposed that if we do have a minimum, it should be named for Algore, and another freeper suggested Hansen, so we think it should be called the Hansen-Gore minimum, to cement for posterity the utter idiocy of those two men.

10 posted on 04/21/2009 11:35:30 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
At this point, there hasn't been a single sunspot in almost two months.

Not true.

There's one that popped up yesterday, and appears to be fading out today, for a lifespan of less than 24 hours.

Spaceweather.

There was another short-lived one about three weeks ago, and another a few weeks before that.

This particular minimum between cycles is dragging out far longer than they typically do, though.

23 posted on 04/22/2009 6:09:15 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: SuziQ
Re the actual cause of Pleistocene glaciation, which is the real "boogeyman" in climate change, this Brown University dissertation should help clarify matters. The study that the dissertation reports represents a large incremental improvement in correlation and interpretation of paleotemperature data series based on oxygen-isotope data from a considerable number of sample sites collected over the last 40-odd years:

http://lorraine-lisiecki.com/thesis_abstract.html

Here is her money quote, which puts away the CO2 crowd, for anyone who cares to read the scientific literature:

The relative phases of obliquity and precession response in the LR04 stack [defined as "{a} 5.3-Myr stack of 57 aligned benthic d18O records {i.e. marine paleotemperature proxy records}....which describes changes in global ice volume and deep ocean temperature and an improved d18O age model"] suggest that northern insolation has been the major driver of d18O change since at least 4.1 Ma and that some change in the phase of precession or obliquity response occurred at approximately 1.4 Ma.

25 posted on 04/22/2009 8:02:03 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: SuziQ
The physical cycles impressed upon the earth by virtue of it's orbit around the sun and the movement of our solar system through the galaxy are the driving and unchangeable factors in climate cycles.

SirKit and I have proposed that if we do have a minimum, it should be named for Algore, and another freeper suggested Hansen, so we think it should be called the Hansen-Gore minimum, to cement for posterity the utter idiocy of those two men.

I think the Hansen-Gore-Obama Dark Ages is a more fitting memorial. The science of detailing the physical cycles should be credited to those who did the work, not those who denied it.

30 posted on 04/22/2009 9:40:00 AM PDT by Myrddin
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