Iranian's are Persians... very different than the arabs .I am more pedantic than most, but I could only get halfway through this without, well, deciding that I don’t care enough to finish!
Useful info BTTT.
Different towels.
Interesting cultural overview. Thanks for posting!
I should point out, though, that the original name for Iran and its people is actually Pahlavi. The name has come to the West as Farsi, or in the hellenic form as Persia.
A debatable point.
Earlier waves of Semites out of the Arabian desert included the Arameans, for sure, and quite possibly the Akkadians. Both of whom were around a couple thousand years before the Persians entered the historical record. In fact the Persian Empire used Aramean as its primary administrative language.
As so often is the case, it depends on how you define "Arab."
The ancient Persians had some very positive attributes. I think Cyrus was the first ancient King to brag about how benevolent and just he was instead of how vicious a killer.
The Persians did fare poorly against the ancient Greeks in combat. On the other hand they defeated just about everyone else.
It is a shame what radical Islam has done to a once great people.
All Muslims are suspect. Their birthplace is irrelevant.
And Italians aren't Germans, but they both practiced fascism.
And Arabs and Persians have both sold their souls to a false prophet.
Would you rather have lead or arsenic in your water?
Later on the Phoenicians, a semitic language speaking people, derived their alphabet from the Egyptian form of writing.
I suspect the writer of this article was trying to limit the term "Arab" to a handful of Bedouin tribes who became known to Roman tax collectors shortly after their conquest of Felix Arabia.
None of that matters. The original population in what is called Mesopotamia is pretty much the same today as it was when the Semites overran the Sumerians and adopted their written language. Persians (or Aryans) arrived much later than that. Their history includes the conquest of Babylon (more than once too).
No doubt the Aryans left behind a modicum of DNA.
The Mongols, who arrived much letter, left behind much more than a modicum of DNA ~ in fact, they caused such devastation in Mesopotamia they managed to change the ethnic background of every tribe in the region. The perception that Iraqis look different than Iranians is probably more a consequence of recent Mongol admixture and not of earlier Aryan admixture.
There is a Zen Buddhist document called "The Gateless Gate". It's supposed to have all the "basics" in it ~ and it's pretty basic. White folks get mentioned one time ~ reading The Fox I noticed "The Persian Had a Red Beard".
No doubt Mongol Buddhists deep into Zen roamed the streets of the burned out city of Baghdad searching for Red Bearded Persians ~ which would, of course, be a difference. Alas, unlike in the time of the Zen Masters (500 AD or there abouts) today's Persians no longer have red beards so the search would be unfruitful.
oh yeah, pls don’t forget “they are Persians” and therefore think they are superior to ordinary “black” Arabs, snort
“Turks took over the leadership of Islam, so Islamic history is not strictly the same thing as Arabic history. In the coming centuries Islam would extend its sway all the way from China and Indonesia to Spain. But the Ottoman Empire, once the world’s greatest power, was a Turkish, rather than Arabic or Persian, Islamic Sultanate.”
And by way of a note:
actually, the “Turks” are just the most recent peoples to the region of Anatolia now called “Turkey” [after the Hittites, Assyrians, Greeks, Persians, Romans] ; they arrived in Anatolia in the 11th Century, as the Seljuks, a Turkic tribe from central Asia; they obtained Islam (probably by way of Persia) early in the 11th Century, and shortly after proceeded on a route of conquest from the Hindu Kush to eastern Anatolia and from Central Asia to the Persian Gulf.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seljuq_Empire
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“...Iranians are Aryan”
The Persian people are good people and are generally, outside of the psycho mullahs, friendly towards the U.S.
However Aryan? Does that term even mean anything? No offense but Ahmadinejad does not look like an “Aryan.” Short, big nosed, dark...in fact, he looks more like a Julius Streicher Der Strumer/ modern day Iranian & Arab press Caricature of a Jew than real Jews do. Arab leaders also look more like these caricatures than real Jews do (look at Mubarak). Moreover, Iranians have more per capita nose jobs than any other people on earth. Sorry for not being PC.
Iranian's are Persians... very different than the arabs . You bet your Farsi.