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1 posted on 05/08/2009 6:13:09 AM PDT by JDAM2007
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To: JDAM2007

Absurd.


2 posted on 05/08/2009 6:17:11 AM PDT by benjibrowder (I keep praying for hope and change, but I open my eyes and Obama is still President.)
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To: JDAM2007
The Privy Council makes crappy decisions.
3 posted on 05/08/2009 6:21:56 AM PDT by MortMan (Power without responsibility-the prerogative of the harlot throughout the ages. - Rudyard Kipling)
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To: JDAM2007

Wonder if the Queen has the authority to disband (or replace) the Privy Council, strip these 12 “law lords” of their title, perhaps a stay in the Tower of London...


4 posted on 05/08/2009 6:22:54 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: JDAM2007

Um, isn’t the queen the keeper of the faith?


5 posted on 05/08/2009 6:24:15 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Fight the bastards or perish! ~ Jim Robinson ~ Þ)
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To: JDAM2007

When is enough ENOUGH.
Wake up people!


6 posted on 05/08/2009 6:24:36 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: JDAM2007

Is this from The Onion? (please say yes)


7 posted on 05/08/2009 6:29:56 AM PDT by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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To: JDAM2007

Michael Savage banned- might offend Muslims.

KFC serving halal- might offend Muslims not to.

Medal of honor banned- might offend Muslims.

What’s next- no ringing Big Ben, but the Call to Prayer (Prettiest sound on Earth, according to Obama) called from its tower?


9 posted on 05/08/2009 6:37:13 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: JDAM2007

This sickens me. It just proves who has the power in England now. Where is their backbone?


10 posted on 05/08/2009 6:37:55 AM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: JDAM2007
Forget about England. It's finished. Its economy is shredded, the monarchy will soon be dismantled and the Church of England is essentially moribund.

The English have never quite grasped the concept that respecting the faith of others does not mean abandoning your own.

12 posted on 05/08/2009 6:43:18 AM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: JDAM2007

The suicide of the West.


13 posted on 05/08/2009 6:43:35 AM PDT by Travis McGee ("Foreign Enemies And Traitors" is being shipped from the printer.)
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To: JDAM2007

While they are at it why dont they change the flag and anthem as well?

Whose country is it anyway????? Whose traditions? Perhaps the immigrants and guestst should drop their stuff at the door.....


14 posted on 05/08/2009 6:46:56 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: JDAM2007

But...if the Queen or her Knights received an Isamic award full of Islamic symbols and scripture, they would wear it with pride.


15 posted on 05/08/2009 6:47:55 AM PDT by 240B (i will not pay my mortgage until i get free money from Obama)
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To: JDAM2007

Great job of defending the Faith there Queenie!


17 posted on 05/08/2009 6:49:06 AM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: JDAM2007

WHO are the people making these decisions, and who are they accountable to?


19 posted on 05/08/2009 6:53:28 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: JDAM2007

Pathetic. We must avoid offending the Moooooslims at all costs.


21 posted on 05/08/2009 7:21:05 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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Continued Islamization of Europe: 1
Europe identity: 0


24 posted on 05/08/2009 9:19:28 AM PDT by cranked
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If I was awarded a medal by some country, I cannot imagine being offended by its design. It’s *their* medal. The Turkish Medal of Honor has (of course) a crescent and star on it. If it ever happened that the Turks saw fit to award me one, I would humbly accept it and display it as a great honor.

Britain is an officially Christian country and it follows that their heraldry will have crosses on it. Are they gonna do something about the flag too?


29 posted on 05/08/2009 3:50:10 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: JDAM2007; benjibrowder; MortMan; DTogo; BykrBayb; FES0844; fleagle; sonic109; DBrow; Old Grumpy; ...

As a recipient of an Honour (the Order of Australia) within the traditions of the British orders of Chivalry and their commonwealth successors, I have made myself something of an amateur expert in them. This case shocked me when I heard about it - to the extent that I considered returning my own Honour - so I decided to check out what had happened. Reading this thread, I thought I might shed a little light on the issue. I have posted this same message in another thread on the same topic so if you read that thread, you may already have seen this.

First of all, this ruling has virtually nothing to do with the Queen, nor with the British Government and has absolutely no implications whatsoever for any British honour or decoration such as the Victoria Cross. None at all.

The Privy Council is, by long standing tradition and law, the Highest Court of Appeal in the Commonwealth of Nations for any Commonwealth Nation that has not explicitly decided it should no longer serve that role (Australia, for example, disallowed appeals to the Privy Council in the 1980s). When sitting as such, it does not sit as a British Court making rulings based on British law. Rather it sits as a court of appeal and bases its decisions on the laws of the Commonwealth Realm that the appeal comes from. This has meant, in recent years, for example, that the Court has approved the application of the death penalty in certain countries, even though that penalty is no longer available under British law.

In this particular case the 1976 Constitution of Trinidad and Tobago has provisions that the Courts of Trinidad and Tobago have decided outlaw the Trinity Cross - not British law, but Trinidad and Tobago law, and this ruling was initially made by the High Court of Trinidad and Tobago - and incidentally, the Judge who made that ruling is an ordained Minister of the Presbyterian Church. His ruling was based on the law as written, not on any religious basis.

The Privy Council, likewise, as to rule based on what the Constitution of Trinidad and Tobago says - and that is what it has done.

There are no implications for this in British law, and if a similar case concerning a British honour somehow reached the Privy Council, they would rule differently. Because in the United Kingdom, Her Majesty the Queen is both Head of the Church of England, Defender of the Faith, and Fount of Honour. There is no incompatibility between Honours and Christianity under British Constitutional law, even if there is under Trinidad and Tobago’s law.

The Order of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago which will replace the Trinity Cross will not be an honour from the Queen. It’s a creation of the Parliament of Trinidad and Tobago.


31 posted on 05/09/2009 2:55:50 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: JDAM2007

Before she passed away in 2022, Queen Elizabeth II wrote in preparation for her memorial ceremonies and final burial:

“Who shall separate us from the love of Christ?”


40 posted on 12/14/2022 11:38:30 PM PST by linMcHlp
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