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Soldier charged in deaths of 5 U.S. troops (Perp Identified)
CNN ^ | May 12, 2009

Posted on 05/12/2009 7:00:22 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The U.S. soldier who fired on fellow troops in Iraq has been identified as Army Sgt. John Russell, and he's been charged with five counts of murder, a military spokesman said Tuesday.

Russell killed five people when he fired on other troops at a stress clinic at Camp Liberty, near Baghdad International Airport, U.S. officials said.

Along with five counts of murder, Russell also was charged with one count of aggravated assault, said Maj. Gen. David Perkins, who briefed reporters in Baghdad.

Russell is on his third tour in Iraq. He's with the 54th Engineering Battalion, based in Germany. He is in military police custody at Camp Victory.

There are no immediate insights on a motive, Perkins said.

The military is conducting a criminal investigation and another probe that explores whether the shootings could have been prevented, Perkins said.

Among the five killed, two were on the staff of the clinic -- one from the Army and the other from the Navy. Both were with the 55th Medical Company. The other three were enlisted soldiers. None of the victims have been identified.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: campliberty; campvictory; iraq; johnrussell; murder; russell; soldier
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To: tsmith130

My prayers to you and your son.

Faciendum est.


101 posted on 05/12/2009 11:12:27 AM PDT by roaddog727 (Built Ford tough not Obama weak.)
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To: Allegra
Also on the "I'll bet it's a . . . " front, another site (NOT FR) is claiming rumors that the perp is black and the ncident is racial, but the local Sherman Texas TV station has this interview with the Dad, and you can see for yourself that . . .

http://www.kxii.com/home/headlines/44793132.html

102 posted on 05/12/2009 1:33:33 PM PDT by BohDaThone
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To: BohDaThone
Also on the "I'll bet it's a . . . " front, another site (NOT FR) is claiming rumors that the perp is black and the ncident is racial, but the local Sherman Texas TV station has this interview with the Dad, and you can see for yourself that . . .

Thanks for the link.

I made no speculation as to what the race of the shooter was. In fact, I was sort of annoyed at those who were doing so on here yesterday.

And I knew that particular detail this morning (Baghdad time).

My main concern about this is for all of those who are suffering from this incident, both here and back home.

Take care.

103 posted on 05/12/2009 1:54:34 PM PDT by Allegra ( Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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To: PurpleMan
Where are you getting your information?

Please cite evidence to support your claim that "the number is significantly higher" in the military, please.

Recent published statistics regarding the incidents of violence with military personnel state otherwise. Is your source the NYTimes?

104 posted on 05/12/2009 2:07:05 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
It would seem more prudent to await the IO’s findings rather than engage in mindless speculation.
105 posted on 05/12/2009 2:22:27 PM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: Allegra

Allegra, have the rocket attacks on the FOBs and COPs eased up too? Or are they still happening with regularity?


106 posted on 05/12/2009 3:05:57 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Running On Empty

Frustrating, isn’t it?

I’ve been here five years and lurked for 4 before that so I’m not going anywhere:) Now and then I just have to VENT!


107 posted on 05/12/2009 3:21:01 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: dfwgator

That was his “slave name”, what did he change it to?

It was just a plain white dude, who was overly stressed. Now what do you prejudiced people who jumped the gun have to say?


108 posted on 05/12/2009 5:37:52 PM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, BLACK, Beautiful, Conservative!!!)
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To: ponygirl

I wonder when we will learn it is actually “John Russell Muhammed.” Kinda like John Allen Muhammed: AKA “The Beltway Sniper.”

...white dude.... now what? How about lets pray for his poor family.


109 posted on 05/12/2009 5:38:42 PM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, BLACK, Beautiful, Conservative!!!)
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To: brwnsuga

Ok, I was wrong. Sometimes our first instincts aren’t right. On a forum like this, we speculate on things. No harm, no foul.


110 posted on 05/12/2009 7:09:37 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: PurpleMan
If you add all of the suicides, attempted suicides and, alcholol related incidents, I would enture to guess that the number is significantly higher.

Incorrect.

111 posted on 05/12/2009 7:12:08 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (When you're spinning round, things come undone. Welcome to Earth 3rd rock from the Sun!)
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To: ohioWfan
Where are you getting your information?

My guess would be the DNC or Code Pink.

He has the talking points down cold.

112 posted on 05/12/2009 7:15:17 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (When you're spinning round, things come undone. Welcome to Earth 3rd rock from the Sun!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
I've noticed that.

I have keen radar when it comes to anti-military leftist talking points.

113 posted on 05/12/2009 7:41:08 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan
Allegra, have the rocket attacks on the FOBs and COPs eased up too? Or are they still happening with regularity?

Oh, yes, IDF has backed off considerably in the past year.

It hasn't completely stopped, but attacks on the bases are now few and far between.

I rarely have to dive into a bunker these days. :)

114 posted on 05/13/2009 2:50:49 AM PDT by Allegra ( Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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To: ohioWfan

Stars&Stripes:
http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=62572
Overall last year, there were 140 confirmed suicides and there are another seven probable suicides still under investigation, the Army said. That’s up from 115 in 2007, and 101 in 2006.

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CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/01/29/army.suicides/index.html
WASHINGTON (CNN) — The U.S. Army will report Thursday the highest level of suicides among its soldiers since it began tracking the rate 28 years ago, CNN has learned.

Statistics obtained by CNN show that the Army will report 128 confirmed suicides last year and an additional 15 suspected suicides in cases under investigation among active-duty soldiers and activated National Guard and reserves.

The confirmed rate of suicides was 20.2 per 100,000. Army officials were reviewing the suspected suicides Wednesday. If any of them are confirmed, the rate will rise.

In 2007, the Army reported 115 confirmed suicides, the highest level since 1980, when it began tracking suicides.
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Military Times: http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2009/03/airforce_suicide_032309w/

Suicide rates remain high
Top officers urge ‘supportive climate’ for troubled troops

The suicide rates in all four services last year were higher than the national civilian average, and significantly higher in the Army and Marines, which saw overall increases.
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Journal of Amaerican Medicine: http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/301/11/1111
Soldier Suicide Rates Continue to Rise:
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Hartford Courant: http://www.courant.com/news/nationworld/hc-mentally-unfit-still-fightin.artmay12,0,2018202.story

Since the invasion of Afghanistan in 2001, more than 210 service members have killed themselves while serving in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the suicide rate has risen significantly since the beginning of those campaigns. Army-wide, there have been 64 confirmed or suspected suicides in the first four months of this year, with the suicide rate among soldiers now exceeding the demographically adjusted civilian rate.
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San Jose Mercury News: http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_12320617?nclick_check=1
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And yes......
NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/30/us/30suicide.html?pagewanted=print

Suicides of Soldiers Reach High of Nearly 3 Decades

Suicides among soldiers in 2008 rose for the fourth year in a row, reaching the highest level in nearly three decades, Army officials said Thursday.

At least 128 soldiers killed themselves last year, and the Army suicide rate surpassed that for civilians for the first time since the Vietnam War, according to Army statistics. The suicide count, which includes soldiers in the Army Reserve and the National Guard, is expected to grow; 15 deaths are still being investigated, and the vast majority of them are expected to be ruled suicides, Army officials said.

Including the deaths being investigated, roughly 20.2 of every 100,000 soldiers killed themselves. The civilian rate for 2006, the most recent figure available, was 19.2 when adjusted to match the demographics.

Suicides by active-duty soldiers continued an alarming rise during the first four months of the year, although they fell off in April after a service-wide push to identify soldiers on the brink, the Army reported Thursday.

Through April, the Army reported 64 confirmed or potential active-duty suicides, compared with 39 confirmed suicides in the same period last year. The 129 confirmed suicides for all of 2008 marked a record high since the Army started tracking them in 1980.


115 posted on 05/13/2009 6:39:35 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: ohioWfan

See 115


116 posted on 05/13/2009 6:41:09 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: Allegra
Oh, that is GOOD to hear, Allegra!

God be with you and continue to protect you, dear friend!

117 posted on 05/13/2009 7:26:55 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: PurpleMan
You conveniently omit the fact that suicides in the military are lower than in the same age group in the population at large.

The same is true with the murder rates.

That's the liberal hook, PurpleMan - to provide most of the information, but not all of it.

It leads the gullible to assume things are true that are not.

The suicide rate is very serious, and the military is dealing with it, but the singular goal of leftist garbage sources like CNN is to turn people against Operation Iraqi Freedom, and to think of our soldiers as victims rather than the heroes they are.

Apparently you've fallen for it.

118 posted on 05/13/2009 7:34:34 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

Originally, I said the include the suicides, attempted suicides and, alcholol related incidents.

You conveniently omit the data on these additional incidents.

That’s the “suck it up and fight you wimps” hook “ohioWfan” - to provide most of the information, but not all of it.


119 posted on 05/13/2009 8:04:20 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: PurpleMan
Your original conjecture was based on your reading leftist sources (you cited them here), and drawing your own negative conclusions based on insufficient data from anti-military articles.

btw, I was responding to your sources- the post you called my attention to, which didn't include your conjecture which you are now defending.

So your argument is completely invalid. But nice try to deflect your own tactic onto me.

Bottom line - you're wrong.

120 posted on 05/13/2009 8:19:07 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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