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To: neverdem
Yesterday, I saw a program on the History Channel where they actually drew a connection between sunspots and temperature.
They even mentioned the Maunder Minimum, showed charts, etc.
I don't know how that program got past the censors. That was the first non-BS climate program I've seen on my formerly-favorite channel.
5 posted on 06/05/2009 1:14:29 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (0bama - A waste is a terrible thing to mind)
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To: ComputerGuy

I saw the same program.


6 posted on 06/05/2009 1:15:54 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (The side that stays within its fortifications is beaten"-Napoleon Bonaparte)
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To: ComputerGuy

I saw the same program.


7 posted on 06/05/2009 1:15:55 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (The side that stays within its fortifications is beaten"-Napoleon Bonaparte)
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To: ComputerGuy
"program"

Wow, I'd like to see that one. I've had a bellyfull of man-made global warming programs to the point I can barely watch documentaries anymore without being told about the evils of it all. Can you remember the title of the program?

9 posted on 06/05/2009 1:33:17 AM PDT by driftless2 (four)
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To: ComputerGuy

The chief reason for this grand denial that has gone on for twenty-plus years...are the “scientists”...who graduated from various universities in the 1970s and 1980s...with Earth Science degrees. To get a Earth science degree...you basically admitted that your overall interest in science itself was marginal and you never had great grades to brag about.

So the universities in the US started this simplified science program...which in most cases...involved no classes in solar or planetary sciences. So you breezed your way through four years of college with a basic introduction to forestry, weather, climate, the study of oceans, some light chemistry and biology...and toss in a journalism class or two. Then you went out into the world and discovered that you barely made any money at this Earth science stuff. But then you discovered that there were various grants sitting there, and you found projects of marginal value to get a grant for.

As days, weeks and months went by...you got more grants by finding more evidence of global warming. The guys who moved up in the control of the grants came to realize that companies, the US government, and foundations were hyped up on global warming...so naturally, you tilted the grants toward the warmer-wannabes. This got them nice cars, real houses, and imaginary leadership positions within foundations of zero value.

If you note off NPR...the various episodes where they interviewed global warming wannabes....and the question of solar cycles came up...immediate denial came up....for two reasons. First, you admit the truth, then the Earth sciences crowd loses the magic pass to the grant money, and the solar crowd gains total control. The second reason...lets go ahead and admit it....our Earth science crowd has no background in solar cycles to start with and couldn’t even describe how the cycle works.

So as you take the Earth science crowd....you will notice that they are mostly naive on politics and globalization but a bunch of the supporters of Earth science...come from the environmental groups and anti-globalization crowd. They manipulate and utilize the Earth science folks and the foundations. It’s like a pimp having a couple of good prostitutes...and making good money off each.

My suggestion...the next time you get into a discussion with a global warmer...ask them if they ever took a single class in solar science...I’m guessing answer in every single case will be no. Don’t give them any respect after that.


12 posted on 06/05/2009 1:57:31 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: ComputerGuy; sonofstrangelove

Do you think you could dig up the program and episode? Or at least the program and air date?


15 posted on 06/05/2009 2:41:19 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: ComputerGuy
Perhaps some people who wish to remain credible don't want to hang themselves by sticking with the faulty information. Is it too much to ask if they've seen the light, hallelujah!

I wouldn't want my name known as a gullible global warming advocate. Jeez....the facts are right in front of their face.

When Al Gore is shown to be the fraud to ALL to see, I predict he will go back into a deep post-election-like funk.

55 posted on 06/05/2009 3:34:29 PM PDT by chiller (almost speechless)
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