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Don't Be So Square - Why American Drivers should learn to love the Roundabout
Slate ^ | July 20, 2009 | Tom Vanderbilt

Posted on 07/21/2009 6:58:18 PM PDT by Arec Barrwin

Don't Be So Square Why American drivers should learn to love the roundabout.

By Tom Vanderbilt Posted Monday, July 20, 2009, at 6:54 AM ET

Here is a narrative that has been playing out over the last several years in any number of American towns: Traffic engineers notice that a particular intersection has a crash problem or is moving traffic inefficiently. After a period of study, the engineers propose a roundabout.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: road; roundabout; traffic
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

MN is building roundabouts out in the middle of nowhere...just because they can...

Socialism is un-American.


41 posted on 07/21/2009 7:16:16 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR...Monthly Donors Wanted...I Upped My Monthly. Now, Up Yours.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Its an American truck. An F150 to be precise.


42 posted on 07/21/2009 7:16:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Arec Barrwin
We don't need two Europes!

Of course if you want to build some autobahns, I'm okay with that.

43 posted on 07/21/2009 7:16:43 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Jemian

Some are OK if properly designed-there is one in Anchorage that has 3 lanes, and I’ve come close to getting creamed there more than once. How it seems to logically work and the actual use are not in synch and if you followed the old directions the state posted on the net, which did not match the signs in the actual roundabout, doom was kind of likely. Judging from the piles of broken glass and plastic, I’m not the only person who has trouble with it. I pretty much refuse to use it anymore


44 posted on 07/21/2009 7:17:14 PM PDT by Gnomad
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To: Arec Barrwin

They’re fun, especially multi-lane ones when traffic is very light. Even more fun on a motorcycle :)


45 posted on 07/21/2009 7:17:21 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Magic Fingers

I was coming in from Strawberry on a very dark, rainy night the first time I encountered that idiocy. I almost busted my ass. You don’t expect something like that out in the middle of nowhere in Arizona.


46 posted on 07/21/2009 7:18:05 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (WWTHD - What Would The Hondurans Do?)
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To: LukeL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebkogYErN3Y&feature=related


47 posted on 07/21/2009 7:18:35 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: trumandogz

There’s one in Rome that will scare the **** out of you.


48 posted on 07/21/2009 7:18:50 PM PDT by Calm_Cool_and_Elected (Who is John Thompson?)
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To: Arec Barrwin

In Tucson roundabouts are put in neighborhoods where there’s a whiny neighborhood association that doesn’t like cars, they tend to be associated with speed bumps and “no through traffic” roads. This gives roundabouts a high level of guilt by association.


49 posted on 07/21/2009 7:19:52 PM PDT by discostu (Jeff's imagination has gone beyond the fringe of audience comprehension)
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To: Jemian

The local traffic engineers have been installing them at most of the new major intersections. They are very efficient and most of the time you barely even have to slow down and rarely do you have to come to a full stop. The feds subsidize them because the fact that you don’t have to come to a full stop and then accelerate from a stand still means that it eases air pollution and decreases gas consumption. Of course, there are some folks who just can’t seem to get the hang of them, but there are morons wherever you go.


50 posted on 07/21/2009 7:20:32 PM PDT by DryFly
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I went through it a couple of weeks ago on a sunny afternoon and I still hated the damned thing. In Payson, of all places!


51 posted on 07/21/2009 7:20:38 PM PDT by Magic Fingers
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To: hawkeye101
I never wave drivers on. It's a habit I picked up in the FD. If you wave a driver in, you assume responsibility for their safe passage, although it would be difficult for the other driver to prove you waved them on.

Friend of mine made a call on Interstate 35 where a driver had broken down on the inside lane. Some woman pulled over and waved for him to come over, as she had a cell phone. The guy stepped right in front of an eighteen wheeler. You know how far people get knocked in accidents sometimes? My buddy said this guy was stuck to the front grille like a bug.

I've seen several accidents where people waved someone through and they pulled out in front of another vehicle. In relation to your original post, a lot of people do not realize that just because they're willing to let another car through, that does NOT mean that everyone else who has the right of way is willing to give it up.

52 posted on 07/21/2009 7:21:01 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Dittos! For Yes classics and against roundabouts! I was on a new one that’s still in construction tonight - there’s another intersection to avoid...


53 posted on 07/21/2009 7:21:45 PM PDT by Ladysmith (I am not a number! I am a free man! I am Jim Thompson!!)
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To: Arec Barrwin

I agree. They are a fixture in New England, where I grew up. They’re now being introduced in Central Ohio, where I’ve lived for 18 years, and the folks here are clueless.


54 posted on 07/21/2009 7:22:28 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century. I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Arec Barrwin
Traffic circles? Why take a perfectly straight road and screw it up?

Everytime I see one of the things I see some blue-nosed nitwit nanny shaking her finger at me. "We know what's good for you." No thanks.

55 posted on 07/21/2009 7:22:32 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Magic Fingers

I think a couple ADOT engineers got a free shopping trip to London to study them.


56 posted on 07/21/2009 7:22:54 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (WWTHD - What Would The Hondurans Do?)
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To: Arec Barrwin

Anyone on here remember the monster of a traffic circle in Long Beach, CA, where 101 (now state 1) met Lakewood Blvd. and Los Coyotes Blvd? That baby was a killer (literally). Is that thing still in operation?

Here where I now live (eastern WA) they are building roundabouts all over the place. One, at a freeway off ramp, had its very 1st accident the day it opened. It was my wife. No joke. Not to worry, she wasn’t hurt and the other guy was at fault. Well, no one told him the driver on the roundabout has right of way over entering traffic, doggoneit. He argued and argued but still got the ticket.


57 posted on 07/21/2009 7:23:50 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: PackerBoy
We have a number of them in Dublin, Ohio - a suburb of Columbus. I like them, and am pretty sure they have reduced travel time AND accidents at a few intersections.

I go thru them all the time, near Muirfield. They work.

58 posted on 07/21/2009 7:25:06 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century. I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: listenhillary

You gotta love the multi lane roundabout! Yeah, life will never be so meaningful until you learn to navigate these!


59 posted on 07/21/2009 7:26:30 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Jim Thompson 2012! Go JimTom Go!)
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To: buccaneer81

Yup, in Ma they’re called Rotaries and they’re quite efficient in blending traffic flow.

All this hoopla is crazy


60 posted on 07/21/2009 7:26:43 PM PDT by justkate
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