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1 posted on 08/04/2009 9:01:18 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Please don’t confuse the tree huggers and polar bear lovers with stupid and senseless little things like facts and data, it confuses them and then the Obamassiah will have to step in and declare to one and all that you acted stupidly.


2 posted on 08/04/2009 9:08:44 PM PDT by urroner
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To: neverdem

Could it really be that the industrialized world has done such a wonderful job at eliminating pollutants over the past 100 years, that more warming sunlight is getting to the surface??

.No more peat burning homes
.Few Coal burning heated homes
.Few wood burning homes
.Autos that now emit 5% of what they emmitted in 1980
.Scrubbers on most industrial smokestacks
.More nuc plants worldwide

??? Is global warming a product of:

1. Added sun output hitting Earth due to our recent cleaning up the atmosphere

2. A product of varied sun output, affecting both Earth and our planetary neighbors;

3. Mankind’s footprint on planet Earth
that promises future destruction?

I’ll vote for #1 and #2!


4 posted on 08/04/2009 9:27:28 PM PDT by aShepard
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To: neverdem
Clouds are a huge mystery. There is a lot of speculation about what effect cosmic rays and solar wind have, and in the end, we don't know. Some point to ionized nuclei causing cirrus formation and a cascading cooling effect. Others say high-energy He nuclei warm the atmosphere because their impact produces heat. Then there are controversies about global brightening, pollution, and cloud formation.

My point is that we have physicists building these asinine computer models of global warming telling us by exactly how much the earth will warm, and they can't account for clouds or precipitation! These models are the only evidence for global warming. I have a tough time believing any physicist or climatologist genuinely believes in global warming knowing how bad the science is. They're in it for the grant money.

6 posted on 08/04/2009 9:40:12 PM PDT by ElectronVolt
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To: neverdem

Don’t forget the difference between what was counted as a sunspot in 1913 and 2009.


7 posted on 08/04/2009 9:51:27 PM PDT by enduserindy (Conservative Dead Head)
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To: neverdem

In the following video documentary — the *one* that all must see — it does go into that mechanism of the sunspots and how it affects a series of events to leads eventually to warming or cooling of the earth. It’s actually not the sun heating up or cooling down that does it, though — so don’t think that... You’ll have to see the video for a good explanation.

It’s one thing to gripe and complain about these things and disagree with it, but it’s quite *another* to convince your friends and neighbors and relatives and coworkers...

THEREFORE..., it’s also absolutely necessary for people to know the information in the following documentary. If there were simply *one* video that you could see and/or show people you know... this would be the *one*...


The following is an *excellent* video documentary on the so-called “Global Warming” I would recommend it to all FReepers. It’s a very well-made documentary.

“The Great Global Warming Swindle”

If you want to download it, via a BitTorrent site (using a BitTorrent client), you can get it at the following link.
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3635222/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle
[this is a high-quality copy, of about a gigabyte in size...]

It’s worth seeing and having for relatives, friends, neighbors and coworkers to see.

Also, see it online here...
http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/great_global_warming_swindle.php
[this one is considerably lower quality, is a flash video and viewable online, of course...]

Buy it here...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WLUXZE
[this one would be the very highest quality version, on a DVD disk, of several gigabytes in size...]

Also, in split parts on YouTube...

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 1 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMA6sszChwQ

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 2 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERisgJ3QWjk

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 3 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HLVYwmZoxc

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 4 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr-AG3BA1Go

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 5 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbllTsBHuxk

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 6 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyK7C1OrAAo

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 7 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrIX8LcAuMQ

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 8 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-ZmCDOZbtM


8 posted on 08/04/2009 9:54:18 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: neverdem

I live on high ground near the coast. I want beachfront property.


12 posted on 08/04/2009 10:59:36 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: neverdem
There is much to learn about the overall scheme of influences here; but it does seem odd that such a small change in the sun’s energy flow to Earth (about 0.1-0.2%) could be masked by the supposed “strong signal” of human-induced climate change.

Obviously then one should assume that there is much more to the suns output then just what can be measured with an irradiance meter. Can you honestly say that there is only a 0.1 to 0.2 % difference in these two suns ?


16 posted on 08/05/2009 3:58:03 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: neverdem; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Genesis defender; proud_yank; grey_whiskers; FrPR; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

17 posted on 08/05/2009 4:03:19 AM PDT by steelyourfaith ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money" - Lady Thatcher)
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Thanks neverdem.

Scientific evidence now points to global cooling, contrary to U.N. alarmism
Washington Examiner | 08/04/09 | Kevin Mooney
Posted on 08/04/2009 5:17:01 PM PDT by neverdem
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2308324/posts


22 posted on 08/05/2009 9:09:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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Thanks neverdem.
 
Catastrophism
 
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23 posted on 08/05/2009 9:09:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: neverdem

We should be using the term “LIA-II”; we’re very likely in the second summer of a second little ice age.


24 posted on 08/06/2009 3:47:07 AM PDT by wendy1946
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