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Yet another victim of the Cash For Clunkers Scheme (The Working Poor)
WSMV Nashville, TN. ^

Posted on 08/14/2009 8:52:14 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

RICHMOND, Va. -- One man's clunker is another man's meal ticket. Mom and Pop used-car dealers are feeling the crunch as the old Caravans and Cherokees that provide their livelihood get traded in and banished to junkyards under Cash for Clunkers. By some estimates, three of every five of the used cars turned in for government rebates would have ended up on used car lots or resold for parts. While the Clunkers program helped push sales of new cars in July to the highest level in nearly a year, sales of used cars have taken a beating. "We're struggling and a lot of us small guys are going out of business," said James Dameron, sales and finance manager at Chase Motors in suburban Richmond, where sales are down about 30 percent.

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To: right way right

And I hope to continue (God willing) in order to help you with that unemployment $$ for retraining. But hang on to those mechanic’s skills though, don’t kid yourself, that need will come again.


21 posted on 08/14/2009 10:35:44 PM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: right way right
yep, the repair industry just keeps gettin crushed...

the 'zero % financing' wars were the real killer several yrs ago, you couldnt sell a $1k repair when they could now 'afford' a $50k suv...

22 posted on 08/14/2009 10:45:02 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Luke 22:36...Trust in the Lord...=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: GOPJ

You beat me to the punch.

This is why State run centrally planned economies are not nearly as smart as millions of free people acting in a free market.

The law of unintended consequences.


23 posted on 08/14/2009 10:45:16 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I’d also like to know that when many of these people who bought new cars with the cash for clunker program end up defaulting on their loans, where are they going to find a used car? At least one that will be inexpensive since this will no doubt drive the cost of used cars up.


24 posted on 08/14/2009 10:51:04 PM PDT by Birch Barlow (The nine most terrifying words in English are, I'm from the govt and I'm here to help you.-Reagan)
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To: GOPJ
Liberals don’t get the “unintended consequence” concept...

Unintended? Perhaps. The 'hit will take time to be felt by the population, those are the vehicles and sources of parts which would have kept other vehicles like them going for a couple of decades.

The effect is that the poor will not be able to own those large, cheap to buy vehicles in the future, and will be forced to buy smaller vehicles instead. The pinch will come in higher used vehicle prices down the road, forcing those who can to use public transport, and those who don't have any in their area to move to urban environments where thewy are easier to control.

Larger, heavier, less fuel efficient vehicles tend to do better off of the pavement and on rural roads as well, especially in snow.

25 posted on 08/14/2009 11:05:12 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Today’s liberals simply cannot understand Bastiat’s broken-glass fallacy or Sumner’s forgotten man. Rather, today’s liberals break glass and forget about the poor working men and women who pay for their nonsense.


26 posted on 08/14/2009 11:26:40 PM PDT by RBroadfoot
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To: jwparkerjr
I wonder why, if they're interested in helping the environment, do they take cars that aren't running? A car that's not running is doing a lot of harm to the environment. Seems to me they would have required a car to be on the road so as to be one that would be taken off the road to benefit the air.

Look, basically every car that's being traded in through this "cash for clunkers" program either has life left in it, or it doesn't.

If it DOESN'T have life left in it, then the government (THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION) is pissing away YOUR money for absolutely NO reason at all except to put cash into the new car companies while encouraging consumers to go into debt (since the purpose is supposed to be to help the environment).

If it DOES have life left in it, then the government is pissing away YOUR money to put cash into the hands of the new car companies, encourage people to go into debt, and make basic transportation almost unaffordable for the working poor, by destroying a car that they otherwise would have been able to use to meet the needs of their families.

27 posted on 08/15/2009 12:51:17 AM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: KingofZion
That’s the major irony here. Libs pretend to be the friend of the poor man but they stab him time and time again.

You're right on this - I'm not sure why libs do this to the poor. It's odd.

28 posted on 08/15/2009 4:06:45 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Fishy rumors posters" Check 'em out:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2311664/posts)
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To: tflabo
Money used to buy these cars is coming from other parts of the economy - people are deciding not to buy curtains, or the new washing machine or lawn blower.

Government's picking the winners and losers with an incentive plan that rewards the groups that work "with" them. In this case - the auto industry and unions.

In a credit crisis - Obama's people are encouraging citizens to borrow more money - assume debt they might not be able to afford - for a "great car deal" NOW. Now, because the deal's going away when the money runs out... Think "Government as snake oil salesman".

29 posted on 08/15/2009 4:16:39 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Fishy rumors posters" Check 'em out:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2311664/posts)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

http://www.collinsreport.net/2009/08/07/cash-for-clunkers-more-pain-than-gain-will-hurt-charities-the-poor-and-small-businesses/


30 posted on 08/15/2009 4:19:31 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
This is why State run centrally planned economies are not nearly as smart as millions of free people acting in a free market.

It doesn't seem to matter how many times central planning is tried - it just never works out as well as a free market system. Guess we'll get to learn that all over again with the health care fiasco.

31 posted on 08/15/2009 4:23:50 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Fishy rumors posters" Check 'em out:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2311664/posts)
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To: GOPJ
"unintended consequences"

Beat me to it.

32 posted on 08/15/2009 4:40:32 AM PDT by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Used-Car Dealers Left Without

First off the word 'Clunkers' for these used cars bugs me.

A car worth $4,500 may be a 'clunker' to the DC Beltway who gets driven around in Limos or big honkin' gubmint SUVs but not for normal people.

A couple years back I was surfing the net, FR musta been down :-) - and I found this local used car dealer on-line that had an 'older' Mercedes Benz 500S(?)Sedan for $5,000.00 This car had a CarFax report and was taken care of like a baby. Only had a couple minor rust spots and it could have used tires in a year - BUT - at $5K it was a steal. It would have been great for running around town or for running errands in styyyyyyle ;-)

Now it'd be junk. These people are morons

33 posted on 08/15/2009 5:08:49 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Not buying this. There are millions of “clunkers” not being traded in. Far more than what have been traded to date. It’s estimated that 750,000 have been traded to date and interest in the program seems to be waining from the initial surge. I’m taking these articles to mean that these used car salesmen and junk yard owners are going to use this as an excuse to soak prospective buyers.


34 posted on 08/15/2009 5:44:39 AM PDT by RU88 (Bow to no man)
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To: GOPJ

Another opportunity cost: less jobs available because of the $3 billion taxed to pay for the program, poor folks can thank Democrats for their unemployed status


35 posted on 08/15/2009 6:01:16 AM PDT by Son House (President Øbama Turns His Back On The Oppressed During Their Darkest Hours)
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To: Son House
...because of the $3 billion taxed to pay for the program, poor folks can thank Democrats for their unemployed status

You're right - added to the list...

36 posted on 08/15/2009 6:04:59 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Fishy rumors posters" Check 'em out:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2311664/posts)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Cash for Clunkers can do nothing about a “clunker” owned by somebody who wishes to sell it outright without buying anything new.

It's also doing nothing about someone driving a 10mpg beater who can't afford to buy a new car, even with a $4,500 discount.

37 posted on 08/15/2009 7:51:06 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: driftless2

LOL - great minds think in the same ruts...


38 posted on 08/15/2009 9:23:29 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Fishy rumors posters" Check 'em out:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2311664/posts)
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To: GOPJ

The problem with well-meaning liberalism (I’m not talking about the super-libs or the more calculating socialist leadership) is that they always think only ONE step ahead, and never consider the “what if I do that” step... If that one step sounds compassionate, they look no further and are willing to feel good about what they have just done.


39 posted on 08/15/2009 9:50:12 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: right way right; grellis

I would also like to that the working/taxpayers for my unemployment.

However it is so bad in Michigan, can’t even get to find out about retraining untill Sept. I was canned in June!!

Thanks a lot Barry.


40 posted on 08/15/2009 10:09:48 AM PDT by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123)
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