Typical Creationist lie.
First, nothing in science is “proof” of anything; it is either evidence that does or does not support a theory.
And they cannot even get the basic science correct, typical of creationist ignorance and/or willingness to lie.
Ida was heralded as a link between pro-simians (lemurs and such) and simians.
How could a transitional fossil between lemurs and monkeys possibly be “proof” or even evidence of the evolutionary link between apes and humans?
One may as well claim that a transitional fossil between an amphibian and a reptile “proves” that birds evolved from dinosaurs.
==Ida was heralded as a link between pro-simians (lemurs and such) and simians.
As usual, you don’t have a firm enough grasp on the facts to know what your fellow Temple of Darwin fanatics were actually trying to claim:
‘A BEAUTIFULLY preserved 47-million-year-old fossil from a German shale pit is the “missing link”, the earliest ancestor of all living monkeys, apes and people...”This is the first link to all humans”, said paleontologist Jorn Hurum of Norway’s University of Oslo.’
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25515021-2702,00.html
Either that or you are trying to sweep this evo-scandal under the rug as well. Nice try (whatever it is you were trying to accomplish), but no dice!
This little creature is going to show us our connection with the rest of all the mammals; with cows and sheep, and elephants and anteaters,” said Sir David Attenborough who is narrating a BBC documentary on the find. “The more you look at Ida, the more you can see, as it were, the primate in embryo.”
“This will be the one pictured in the textbooks for the next hundred years,” said Dr Jørn Hurum, the palaeontologist from Oslo University's Natural History Museum who assembled the scientific team to study the fossil. “It tells a part of our evolution that's been hidden so far. It's been hidden because the only [other] specimens are so incomplete and so broken there's nothing almost to study.”
(From the Guardian May 19, 2009 James Randerson)
And this:
“Of particular importance to phylogenetic studies, the absence of a toilet claw and a toothcomb demonstrates that Darwinius masillae is not simply a fossil lemur, but part of a larger group of primates, Adapoidea, representative of the early haplorhine diversification.”
Jens L. Franzen1,2, Philip D. Gingerich3, Jörg Habersetzer1, Jørn H. Hurum4*, Wighart von Koenigswald5, B. Holly Smith6
(From Plos-one)
“our connection” “our evolution” “haplorhine” (apes, monkeys, tarsiers)
Ida wasn't hailed as a “missing link”? Not proving? Really?
Interesting, is it not GGG, that whenever evos end up having to eat their words because they blew it, it becomes a *creationist lie*?
Just like when it was taught in schools across the country that most mutations are harmful and it's repeated later, it's labeled a *creationist lie*.
Seems that most things labeled *creationist lie*, had their origin in what was once *scientific truth*.
amd, you'd gain a whole lot more respect and credibility if you'd quit denying what is patently obvious to everyone else. Your continual defending of stuff like this, makes it hard to take you seriously.
Watching you twist and squirm and do ANYTHING rather than admit a creationist was or is right about something scientific is amusing, and pathetic.
I can imagine it's hard to admit that someone else is right, especially when you don't approve of their reasons for being right, but it would be so much easier on you, and the rest of the evos, to learn to do that.
Your devotion to the Temple of Darwin has broken your connection with reality, dreamer. Your evo co-religionist Ida proprietors claimed that Ida “represents an early haplorhine – the ‘dry nosed’ primates that include old world monkeys and apes, including humans.” The ICR News article claims that they used this bogus evo-religious claim to “supposedly prove ape-to-human evolution.” Where does the ICR author say that Ida was claimed by your evo co-religionists to be between apes and humans? The answer is that the good scientists over at ICR never made any such claim. You inserted that claim into their mouths in order to set up a straw man to distract attention away from the embarrassment Ida is causing to your evo-religious creation myth that masquerades as science. The reason this bogus fossil supposedly proved ape-to-human evolution was because of the bogus claim that it linked apes and humans to the rest of the animal kingdom, a link that your fellow evo co-religionists thought was missing until they fell for the Ida hoax. Of course the link is still missing, and it will always be missing because God's Word is clear that humans were created fully formed and fully functional, with no evolutionary connection to apes or any other mystical evo-connections to the greater animal kingdom.