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To: GodGunsGuts; CottShop

“Though an enormous amount of work has now gone into piecing together and analyzing the find, most readers of the headlines would be unaware of the way in which the fossil bits and pieces were scattered over a distance greater than 1½ kilometres! See Dr Don Batten’s 1994 report in Journal of Creation, Australopithecus ramidus—‘the missing link’?”

—“Ardi” was not spread over 1.5 km; the remains of numerous separate Ar. ramidus finds are spread over an area of 1.5 km. (The AiG article posted previously made the same mistake of confusing the 36 or so other Ar. ramidus finds with ‘Ardi’. I wonder if this is the beginning of another urban legend reminiscent of “Lucy’s knee”.)

“The latest claims made include that Ardipithecus is more dissimilar to both apes and humans than previously thought.”

—No, it’s more similar to humans than previously thought; but indeed more dissimilar to chimps (and other modern apes) than previously thought.

“And CT scans of australopithecine skulls show that the organs of balance (the ‘semi-circular canals”) were positioned in ways quite different from that required for a creature that walks habitually upright.”

—Wow, this claim is still being used? I would have thought that this claim would have died when it was discovered that Neandertal semicircular canals were also very small, and probably more similar to those of Australopithecines than those of modern humans. Strange that I never hear Creationists claim that Neandertals didn’t habitually walk upright.


15 posted on 10/04/2009 10:50:23 AM PDT by goodusername
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To: goodusername

[[—“Ardi” was not spread over 1.5 km; the remains of numerous separate Ar. ramidus finds are spread over an area of 1.5 km. (The AiG article posted previously made the same mistake of confusing the 36 or so other Ar. ramidus finds with ‘Ardi’. I wonder if this is the beginning of another urban legend reminiscent of “Lucy’s knee”.)]]

You have evidnece showing that the one called ‘Ardi’ that hte article mentions was all found in one spot I suppose?


17 posted on 10/04/2009 6:54:24 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: goodusername

[[—Wow, this claim is still being used? I would have thought that this claim would have died when it was discovered that Neandertal semicircular canals were also very small, and probably more similar to those of Australopithecines than those of modern humans.]]

Hmmm- first you say Aldi is ‘more ismilar to humans’, then you turn aroudn and state it’s more similar to Australopithecines than to humans-


18 posted on 10/04/2009 6:58:25 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: goodusername

[[—“Ardi” was not spread over 1.5 km; the remains of numerous separate Ar. ramidus finds are spread over an area of 1.5 km. (The AiG article posted previously made the same mistake of confusing the 36 or so other Ar. ramidus finds with ‘Ardi’. I wonder if this is the beginning of another urban legend reminiscent of “Lucy’s knee”.)]]

Sorry- but everythign I find on this states that IN ADDITION, more pieces to 36 other ‘individuals’ were found IN THE SAME AREA of 1.5 km- again- if you have info stating the one they put together and are talkign about was al lfound in a nice neat little area- then present it- I find no such statement, and every indicatio nthat al lthe pieces were ifnact spread over hte 1.5 km ALONG WITH more pieces they beleive belonged to other individuals


19 posted on 10/04/2009 7:08:04 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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