[GodGunsGuts]

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[Alter Kaker]

Here's a simple formula for GGG's spam posts.

Step 1: Find a scientist saying X.

Step 2: Find a scientist who disagrees with X.

Step 3: Since two scientists do not agree, science must be morally bankrupt.

Step 4: Post on Free Republic.

Step 5: Repeat, ad infinitum.

[dangus]

I wish people on both sides of the creationist - evolutionist debate would please note the dynamic of the ancestor that wasn’t.

A scientist makes an important-seeming discovery, announcing what he hopes the discovery means. Being merely human, they naturally are prone to excitement and presumption.

The news media states with certainty what the discovery suggests, without waiting for any scientific confirmation, making all sort of inferences from it.

Here’s the key: Other scientists continue the process of validating or refuting the initial hypotheses and/or model. The system pits those their same human emotion against those of the original scientist. motivating them to disprove the original scientist.

They succeed or they don’t. In this case they do. They announce their own findings with a slightly overstated sense of assuredness. The scientific community weighs the merits of each set of arguments.

The news media largely ignores the later scientists, because their system is designed for pushing an opinion (and actually always has been), not discerning the truth.

[count-your-change]

“This is the first link to all humans,” said Jørn Hurum, a member of the Darwinius team, at the press conference. His colleague Jens Franzen likened its scientific impact to “an asteroid falling down to Earth.” Hurum said the fossil, named “Ida” in honor of his daughter, would be a paleontological “Mona Lisa for the next 100 years.” Ida was front-page news; Google celebrated it with an iconic logo cartoon. The only people unimpressed by their conclusions were scientists.”

WiredScience 10/21/09

What a difference a few months makes. Ida to Coulda to Nada.

But I won't sit in front of the T.V. wearing my “I Love Ida” tee shirt, waiting for an extravaganza with fade in/out graphics and dramatic music announcing “the Mona Lisa for the next 100 years” barely made it for 100 days before getting The Hubris Hustle out the door.

Or as the Boffins of Bones might put it, “Glad Ida Dad Now Sad, Ida Had Bad Clad, Ida Not So Rad.”

My advice to Mr. Hurum: “Get a real hair cut, not the one they just gave you”.

[dangus]

To be briefer: Most scientists legitimately are trying to find the truth, as should be demonstrated by the fact that other scientists pulled the rug on this ancestor story. The problem is that the news media sensationalizes one side, and ignores the other. And while I believe most creationist arguing are well-intentioned Christians, I fear that by pounding on the rift between science and religion, they skew the jury pool.

[mysterio]

As a Christian and a scientist, I have to say the way you spam with this and the AIDS stuff sometimes makes me wonder about your real motives here.