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1 posted on 11/03/2009 9:26:52 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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NO I decesnded form Adam and Eve, Noah and his son Japheth.


2 posted on 11/03/2009 9:29:40 AM PST by US Navy Vet
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It was supposed to be Ida? What happened with that?


4 posted on 11/03/2009 9:40:24 AM PST by MNDude (The Republican Congress Economy--1995-2007)
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Well, according to some of my in-laws, I’m related to several kinds of slime-mold... ;-P


5 posted on 11/03/2009 9:40:54 AM PST by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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Here's the last line from this "science" article:

See? Just like it says in Genesis! The End.

Brian Thomas, M.S.* never fails to entertain. I am anxiously awaiting the posting of a peer-reviewed article by BTMS*.

6 posted on 11/03/2009 9:45:05 AM PST by Buck W.
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I heard a rumor that the scientists discovered a small label on Ardi that read “Made in China”.


7 posted on 11/03/2009 9:47:02 AM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Erase Socialism)
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Paleoanthroplogists are always forced to make assumptions, and then assumptions based on their assumptions. Things can get pretty muddy pretty fast when one operates in this manner. But, not to worry, the rules (i.e. established assumptions) of evolutionary theory are always there to catch the beleaguered scientist when all else fails.

They also love to be the researcher presenting the most recent big discovery. Limelight equals renewed research grants and maybe even a new car.

8 posted on 11/03/2009 9:47:31 AM PST by downtownconservative (As Obama lies, liberty dies!)
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When “Man” received the ability to choose right from wrong and obtained his immortal soul our evolution began. IMHO


9 posted on 11/03/2009 9:49:28 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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...................Ardi...................................Arni

One is a missing link, the other is missing a spine

17 posted on 11/03/2009 10:15:20 AM PST by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: GodGunsGuts

No.
Yes.


18 posted on 11/03/2009 10:22:12 AM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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[[In his assessment of the significance of Ardipithecus ramidus, bipedality expert C. Owen Lovejoy wrote, “We can no longer rely on homologies with African apes for accounts of our origins and must turn instead to general evolutionary theory.”2 Thus, setting aside evolution-inspired ideology, there is no scientific reason—or observed evidence—to believe that Ardi was an ancestor of mankind. In fact, there is every reason to believe it is solely an extinct primate, as uniquely created as any monkey still alive today.]]

This is a gross fallacy. Lovejoy says in this case to go from specific to general evolutionary theory. The author interprets this to mean to abandon evolutionary theory and completely discount it as unscientific.

[[Based on the Bible’s description of origins, one would predict that all “hominids” should actually be either wholly man or wholly ape. Based on the scientific evidence, Ardipithecus was clearly an ape, and as such fits the Genesis account that each creature group was created as its own kind.]]

A combination of two gross fallacies.

1) Appeal to authority. It’s impossible to obtain legitimate scientific results by using the Bible to interpret scientific theories. The Bible is not a legitimate source of science, any more than a science textbook is a legitimate source of religion.

2) Circular reasoning. Based on the scientific evidence, all hominids are apes. To say that humans are not apes because only apes are apes is fallacious.

If you want to use the authority of the Bible to say that evolution is not a legitimate theory, go right ahead. But attempting to use science to refute it is not going to work, especially if those attempting it don’t understand basic science, as is clearly being demonstrated by this website.


20 posted on 11/03/2009 10:26:16 AM PST by spinestein (The answer is 42.)
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Let’s see what People Magazine says.


21 posted on 11/03/2009 10:29:15 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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Alley Oop becomes Ardi OOPS? Putting Ardi together was a bit like going through a junkyard and gathering up auto parts to build a partial vehicle. True some of the parts don't fit very well but with a little hammering and grinding a match can be made.

Now that a frame has been constructed we can imagine how a body might fit on it and suggest how the former owners lived and what they used the vehicle for and even the color of the machine.

Of course, looking at our creation we see something wrong...all four wheels are one side but while it might make the vehicle move oddly, still it fits the story we constructed from the frame we constructed from the parts we “adjusted” producing the body we imagined.

The Ardimobile crashes and burns.

22 posted on 11/03/2009 10:40:52 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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