[theanchoragedailyruse]

Pelosi let the so called Blue Dog Dems vote no so they can go back and say they voted no.

The other Dems think they are safe.

The fact that they voted and passed this bill, has no bearing on the dynamics in the Senate.

Reid and Pelosi are at war with each other. It’s about power.

They don’t have the votes period. This gets bogged down in the Senate.

You pick your battles and the battle is in the Senate...

[goldstategop]

Yep. The Senate may not take it up til next year. Senate Democrats haven't even written up their own bill. And to win over the moderates, it will have to be scaled down considerably. That's why the Senate exists as a check on rashness on the part of the people's house to give a chance to sober reflection. The minority has rights in the Senate they don't have in the House.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

[St. Louis Conservative]

Thank you for being the voice of reason. I’m tired of these fatalistic jackasses on this thread. I’m not making light of this bill passing, but the fact is, the way the House is set up, the majority can ram through just about anything they want....change rules, etc.

The senate that may or may not be passed will not resemble the House version. If, and that’s a big if, the senate passes a bill, it will have to be reconciled with the House version, and then BOTH houses will have to pass it all over again with the changes made. That is a long ways away, and THAT is the vote we really need to watch.

In the end, yeah, tonight sucks.....but we are several steps away from this coming to fruition.

[dr_who]

This has gone past simply voting against the bill, as you yourself have pointed out. Democrats have been counting on public apathy, ignorance, and misinformation to get this bill passed. The only real weapon left to the opposition is to warn voters about it again and again until voter anger is enough to halt the Democrat juggernaut. That hasn’t happened yet, otherwise it wouldn’t be one senate vote away from passage, especially when the corrupt, lawless senate leadership is willing to try just about anything to pass this bill. To suggest that this isn’t a clear loss but merely some sort of tactical retreat is ludicrous. Republicans need to be as ruthless as the Democrats are.

[dr_who]

I don’t see this as legitimate legislation. I see it as another “Saturday Night Massacre”, the sort of action that got Nixon impeached. Don’t believe for a moment that this bill will get stalled in the senate.