Posted on 11/28/2009 1:22:23 PM PST by Sub-Driver
University of East Anglia U-turn in climate change row Leading British scientists at the University of East Anglia, who were accused of manipulating climate change data, have agreed to publish their figures in full.
By Robert Mendick Published: 8:55PM GMT 28 Nov 2009
David Holland is seeking prosecutions against some of Britain's most eminent academics for allegedly holding back information in breach of disclosure laws.
The U-turn by the university follows a week of controversy after the emergence of hundreds of leaked emails, "stolen" by hackers and published online, triggered claims that the academics had massaged statistics.
In a statement welcomed by climate change sceptics, the university said it would make all the data accessible as soon as possible, once its Climatic Research Unit (CRU) had negotiated its release from a range of non-publication agreements.
The publication will be carried out in collaboration with the Met Office Hadley Centre. The full data, when disclosed, is certain to be scrutinised by both sides in the fierce debate.
A grandfather with a training in electrical engineering dating back more than 40 years emerged from the leaked emails as a leading climate sceptic trying to bring down the scientific establishment on global warming.
David Holland, who describes himself as a David taking on the Goliath that is the prevailing scientific consensus, is seeking prosecutions against some of Britain's most eminent academics for allegedly holding back information in breach of disclosure laws.
Mr Holland, of Northampton, complained to the Information Commissioner's Office (ICO) last week after the leaked emails included several Freedom of Information requests he had submitted to the CRU, and scientists' private responses to them.
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I'm not so sure are right about that. The raw data, which is what everyone wants, should just be records from the various temperature monitoring stations around the world. This is not the sort of data that CRU publishes. They average it, group it, extrapolate from it, correct it and whatever to get their plots. I'm hoping and betting that there will be some way to validate the raw data. I think Steve McIntyre and his crew can do that for us - or show that it's a corrupted as you suspect.
Some of the raw data was already deleted due to “lack of storage”.
In other news, Bernie Madoff will appear as his own character witness in new trial.
More like: Liberated from under the thumb of The Mann (and Jones) by information Freedom Fighter(s).
Quote from Mark Steyn.
"Here's what Phil Jones of the CRU and his colleague Michael Mann of Penn State mean by "peer review". When Climate Research published a paper dissenting from the Jones-Mann "consensus", Jones demanded that the journal "rid itself of this troublesome editor", and Mann advised that "we have to stop considering Climate Research as a legitimate peer-reviewed journal. Perhaps we should encourage our colleagues in the climate research community to no longer submit to, or cite papers."
So much for Climate Research. When Geophysical Research Letters also showed signs of wandering off the "consensus" reservation, Dr Tom Wigley ("one of the world's foremost experts on climate change") suggested they get the goods on its editor, Jim Saiers, and go to his bosses at the American Geophysical Union to "get him ousted". When another pair of troublesome dissenters emerge, Dr Jones assured Dr Mann, "I can't see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. Kevin and I will keep them out somehow - even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!"
...Pressuring publishers, firing editors, blacklisting scientists: That's "peer review", climate-style.
It reminds me of Lysenkoism in the Soviet Union, which motivated the expulsion, imprisonment, and death of hundreds of scientists (shall we call them Lysenko deniers?)who disagreed with fraudulent agricultural "research".
Gore and Mann are more ambitious than Lysenko, and bigger frauds than Bernie Madoff. I hope to see them in jail.
Whoa is right. We’ll see if they really do it — liberals say many things but it doesn’t apply to themselves.
I’m with you on this. There are all kinds of reasons why raw data would not ‘belong’ to the university researchers. As a researcher myself (although in literature, not in science), the emails which talked about blacklisting a quarrelsome colleague really got my attention — there are all kinds of ‘gates’ through which certain opinions have difficulty passing.
Like I really trust figures coming from this group.
We will release them as soon as we’re done taking a couple of things out. :D
Book 'em (Mrs) Dono.
Contracts with whom??
Probably non-disclosure agreements with their clients who requested the research. As a retired engineer in the electronics biz, I can tell you that I'm still under the thumb of several NDA's I had to sign years ago. Very common, and getting more prevalent.
They are starting to panic. They need to remember Nixon’s lesson - it’s not so much the original crime, as it is the cover-up.
Wait a minute - too late for that.
“In a statement welcomed by climate change sceptics, the university said it would make all the data accessible as soon as possible, once its Climatic Research Unit (CRU) had negotiated its release from a range of non-publication agreements.”
Translation = “We will make all the data accessible as soon as possible, but not until we alter it, first.”
First step of opening the lid..........more to follow....
(We need to make a satirical hockey stick showing--from their own data--that global temperatures have ALREADY risen 10-20 degrees C over the last thirty years.)
Cheers!
Exactly what are they going to publish? These guys have already boasted about destroying the data.
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