[GodGunsGuts]

For the record, this post is being posted in News/Activism by the express permission of Jim Robinson, founder and owner of Free Republic:

“Debate on church doctrine and or threads on specific religious matters may be best posted in the religion forum, but the defense of religious freedom, especially against those who wish to deprive us of same belongs front and center on FR....They banned God and prayer and creationism from public schools and public places, but I’ll be damned if they’re gonna ban Him or it from FR!”

—Jim Robinson

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2203455/posts?page=78#78

[GodGunsGuts]

Ping!

[Quix]

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! Jim and GGG.

I’m not a young earther. However, am fiercely a Creationist.

[Vaquero]

Dinosaur Soft Tissue Finally Makes News

Bogus!!!!....this has been NEWS for awhile...

I saw paleontologist Jack Horner, talk about this on the Discovery channel 6 or so years ago....it was a great find and an unusual lucky find to find 65+ million year old bone and marrow in such good condition...but it is more than possible and no fantasy 6000 year old earth is the cause...

Some bone matrix is just better at preserving than others...

[B-Chan]

I’m not a believer in a literal reading of Genesis, but there’s no way that soft tissue could survive for sixty million years. If that stuff really is dino tissue, then the currently accepted timeline is wrong.

[null and void]

If I may repost this?

Soft tissue in fossils still mysterious: Purported dinosaur soft tissue may be modern biofilms

Fri Aug 1 10:08:25 2008 · 8 of 13
null and void to wendy1946

Let's see where the data takes us before anyone counts coup here.

Even Especially because 65,000,000 million years is an improbably long time for organic matter to survive this stuff is very interesting.

No matter where the data goes, our understanding of all of creation will be improved.

Perhaps that will mean fossilization and decay processes are far different that we thought.

Perhaps it will mean that everything we know about radioactive decay, geology, cosmology, anthropology, time, and biology needs major revision.

Perhaps our understanding of subterranean bacterial growth in incomplete, and we confused what something looks like for what something is.

Me? I'm hoping it is really bits 'o dinosaur.

That would be way kewl!

[humblegunner]

Dinosaur Soft Tissue Finally Makes News

I can't see it replacing Kleenex.

They need better marketing people.

[xcamel]

"For the record, this post BS is being posted in News/Activism for the express purpose of personal self edification of a militant creationist"

[ElectricStrawberry]

So this is "defense of religious freedom"?? BWAAAAAhahahahahaha...got dictionary??

BTMS* nonsense strikes again. Writing a new story about the same thing you've written about multiple times must be sooooo difficult for a "science" writer.

Uh oh....a TELEVISION corespondant says "changing the whole dino ballgame"....wipe out entire fields of science with that one. Unquesitonable scientific proof that Man walked with dinosaurs and they were all killed in some big flood.

In a field test demonstration to determine whether a dinosaur fossil was real bone, and not bone replaced by minerals, Stahl touched her tongue to it. It stuck like Velcro. She then asked paleontologist Mary Schweitzer, “This is 80 million years old and it can do that?” “Yes,” Schweitzer said confidently.

BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.....this is "science" in BTMS* world? The scientific determination of "bone or rock" is determined with a tongue-stick test. That's "science"....

In demonstrating that dinosaur bones still somehow contained soft, bendable tissues

They didn't find that in any manner. They de-mineralized a fossil in a weak EDTA solution and discovered soft-tissue structures AFTER the rock was dissolved. Keep up the misinformation and selectively quoting 2-word phrases and filling the rest in with your nonsense, BTMS*.

60 Minutes reported, “It looked like the soft tissue she would have expected to find if it had been modern bone.

More tidbits of wisdom from a TELEVISION CORESPONDENT....Earth to "60 minutes"....a modern bone would not need to be de-mineralized to find soft-tissue structures.

All further editorial comments by Stahl are to be ignored as uneducated filler.

But it is not some arbitrary “rule of science” that dictates that flesh usually rots quickly. It is extremely well established by common observation, as well as by decades of easily repeatable experiments, such as those measuring protein decay that occurs in mere days.2

BTMS* here is mixing experiments and rightly believing that you will not know the difference between a dead thing out in the open and a dead thing in conditions that promote fossilization.....because you buy into this nonsense.

Instead, the “science” being challenged is perhaps the deep-time evolutionary dogma that remains widely held despite contradictory evidence.3

The discovery of soft-tissue structures in a fossil hardly challenges one single notion of the Theory of Evolution. See, BTMS*, if you were a scientist, you'd know that.

By removing the unscientific interpretive filter of “millions of years” placed on it, the conundrum created by this soft evidence evaporates.

Yes, by removing entire fields of science, Man can live in the land of 100+ species of large meat eating dinosaurs.

If these dinosaurs were buried during a recent and major watery catastrophe, then the discovery of their still-soft tissues is much easier to explain.

Too bad they weren't "still-soft" tissues, BTMS*....they were fossilized tissue that had to be demineralized to get to soft-tissue structures.....that they are not wholly mineralized is a new concept that most certainly does not prove that man walked with dinosaurs.

If these dinosaurs were killed and buried in the Flood, there would've been representatives of them on the Ark and they would not have been conveniently all placed in specific and orderly strata.....would've been a mish-mash of all living things......including the rest of the humans.

Didn't you ever wonder, BTMS*, why no humans have been found in the extinct dinosaur strata?

This guy died recently.....right?

[wendy1946]

The soft tissue thing is one slice of bread on what I term the basic evolutionist time sandwich; the other slice of bread is the Haldane dilemma. They need quadrillions of years, and they only have a few thousand.

[UCANSEE2]

From the title, sounds like a new type of toilet paper.

“Get the one that is soft as a dino’s behind. Get Dinosaur Soft Tissue. At local stores everywhere.”

[Natural Law]

This was posted in violations of the IRC's Ethical Use Policy ( http://www.icr.org/home/copyright/ )

"2. You may quote up to 100 words, rephrase or summarize our information for non-commercial, educational use provided you reference our website each time our information is used." This is in excess of 100 words.

This is clearly a debate on church doctrine and not a defense of religious freedom. I also don't see how this posting is not in violation of Jim Robinson's policy. It belongs in the Religion Forum.