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1 posted on 12/08/2009 5:22:40 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Well ... there may be some evidence that the Sun provides warmth -- but the science on that is not settled!
2 posted on 12/08/2009 5:26:03 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What about El Nino? Does anyone remember that? That’s realistically what could be causing unusual changes in the temperature and all in all I think that listening to the celebrities has caused formerly sane scientists to ignore these very common things.

El Nino
http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/tao/elnino/el-nino-story.html

La Nina
http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/tao/elnino/la-nina-story.html


3 posted on 12/08/2009 5:27:11 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Professor Henrik Svensmark, a physicist at the Danish National Space Center in Copenhagen, said the recent warming period was caused by solar activity.”

Yeah but they can’t put a tax on the sun can they? ;-)


4 posted on 12/08/2009 5:29:18 PM PST by Dem Guard
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To: SeekAndFind; livius; DollyCali; FrPR; TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; Delacon; Thunder90; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

6 posted on 12/08/2009 5:31:12 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What could the sun possibly have to do with our planet’s temperatures? That’s such an absurd idea!!! Next thing you know some idiot will claim that water can make things wet.


7 posted on 12/08/2009 5:32:27 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: SeekAndFind; All

The question is does the lack of sun spots and hence cooler sun signify a delayed response of the typical increase, or is this the beginning of another Maunder or Sporer Minimum and generally cooler temperatures over time. Since there has appeared to be an 88 year cycle, the next sun spot maximum could rival the maximum of the Dust Bowl/Depression era with more heat from man made causes. On the other hand a continued sunspot minimum would be a major change. Tune in for an exciting/unpredictible future.

Whether we go hotter or cooler, let’s all save energy and get out from under the thumb of the Muzzies, Nigeria, and Venezuela; and save our own hard earned money.


9 posted on 12/08/2009 5:34:10 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: smoothsailing
>> Professor Ian Plimer, from the University of Adelaide, claimed carbon dioxide from volcanoes rather than humans is driving warming as part of a natural process.

"Stupid" volcanoe ping
10 posted on 12/08/2009 5:35:24 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What they need to do is put up a website and publish their point-by-point refutations.


11 posted on 12/08/2009 5:36:16 PM PST by fso301
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To: SunkenCiv; Nervous Tick

*ping*


12 posted on 12/08/2009 5:37:02 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: SeekAndFind
scientists who said otherwise were lying.

Scientists lie. Mark that one for the record!! (Lots of room for self-named "scientists" to say otherwise... and prove it. Silence is complicity.)

13 posted on 12/08/2009 5:39:15 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: SeekAndFind

Who da thunk it...... Henrik’s a Rush fan

I really don’t see how it can be so hot with so many fans.


14 posted on 12/08/2009 5:39:52 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Lukenbach Texas is barely there)
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To: SeekAndFind

“...the organisation have taken funding from Exxon Mobil...”

But somehow researchers who compete for grant money from politicians are above question.

[insert image of Inspector Renault]


15 posted on 12/08/2009 5:40:39 PM PST by PLMerite (Ride to the sound of the Guns - I'll probably need help.)
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To: All
more use should be made of the "H" word: global warming HYPOTHESIS

Hypothesis: a proposition, or set of propositions, set forth as an explanation for the occurrence of some specified group of phenomena, either asserted merely as a provisional conjecture to guide investigation (working hypothesis) or accepted as highly probable in the light of established facts.

16 posted on 12/08/2009 5:44:12 PM PST by bsf2009
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Profesor Hvensmark: “Ve’re-a gueeng tu fuyege-a tu zee soon itselff und i ixpect tu be-a zee furst Dune-a tu velk oon zee Soon. Bork bork bork! Es yuoo meeght imegeene-a, thees veell meke-a me-a a Greet Dune-a! Noo yuoo mey esk yuoorselff, vun’t ve-a get ell boorned up? Es sceeentists ve-a reply , Nu, nu, nu! ve’re-a gueeng et neeght. Um de hur de hur de hur. Ja, thet’s zee teecket. Um de hur de hur de hur. I ixpect tu reeese-a a sveet und ...” (mure-a frum Cupenhegee, mekers ooff feene-a choo, et 11)


17 posted on 12/08/2009 5:44:41 PM PST by tumblindice (Republicrats=Demoblicans: same difference)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is past time for legitimate, ethical, intelligent, hard working scientists to rise up and defend their life’s work.

Watching those charlatans at UEA CRU will tarnish many reputations for decades.

Much like priests who have been permanently damaged by a few perverts.

Pick up your Bunsen Burners dudes and START A FIRE!!!!


18 posted on 12/08/2009 5:47:13 PM PST by sodpoodle (Stop wasting our wealth and start telling the truth.)
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To: SeekAndFind; Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Although the meeting was considerably smaller than the official gathering of 15,000 people meeting down the road, the organisers claimed it could change the course of negotiations."
We shall see. How bad do the world's greatest banks want to make a huge profit for doing nothing over the next ten years or so. Of course those in the UN must fall in line if someone of absolute power tells them to simply back off for a few years. And those who represent given nations say, zero, will simply fall in line, have their speech writers hand them plan B, to voice their crapola during the conference.
19 posted on 12/08/2009 6:01:12 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: SeekAndFind

Quick! Fire a missile into the sun before we all die! /sarc


21 posted on 12/08/2009 6:12:25 PM PST by UAConservative (Audemus Jura Nostra Defendere)
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To: SeekAndFind
He said observational data from lake sediments, coast lines and trees show sea levels have remained stable.

Well well well. If sea level had risen even a little I think we would have heard about it. They might have noticed it in Holland. Or Venice Italy. Or the Seychelles. Maybe New Orleans even.

Professor Ian Plimer, from the University of Adelaide, claimed carbon dioxide from volcanoes rather than humans is driving warming as part of a natural process.

I'm glad you don't believe in AGW, professor, but how do you explain this?

There is no greenhouse warming. Period.

No Smoking Hot Spot

1. The greenhouse signature is missing. We have been looking and measuring for years, and cannot find it.

Each possible cause of global warming has a different pattern of where in the planet the warming occurs first and the most. The signature of an increased greenhouse effect is a hot spot about 10km up in the atmosphere over the tropics. We have been measuring the atmosphere for decades using radiosondes: weather balloons with thermometers that radio back the temperature as the balloon ascends through the atmosphere. They show no hot spot. Whatsoever.


24 posted on 12/08/2009 7:00:40 PM PST by TigersEye (Sarah Palin 2010 - We Can't Afford To Wait)
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