Healthcare and Progressivism

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Healthcare and Progressivism By Rep. Paul Ryan

Remarks presented at the Hillsdale College and Allan P. Kirby, Jr. Center for Constitutional Studies and Citizenship Forum on Health Care Reform and the American Character

Someone has said that before there was the New Deal, there was the "Wisconsin Deal." In Wisconsin, where I come from, the politics of Progressivism still runs strong. It was imported through the University of Wisconsin where they read their Hegel, Max Weber, and other powerful German minds. These thinkers taught the American Progressives to make a sharp distinction between "administration" and "politics." These philosophers and their American disciples wanted to remodel society on the basis not of opinions or "values" but according to ‘rational calculation.'

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This is the text of a speech given by Wisconsin Congressman Paul Ryan for Hillsdale College. Mr. Ryan needs to be persuaded to run for President in 2012.

[Pessimist]

Great speech!

And he presses all the right buttons.

Alas, he's way too much of an “extremist” to be electable. :(

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He is what we need. So far he is saying he doesn’t want to run, but clearly, he would be an excellent candidate.

[MrB]

Examining “socialist healthcare” from the “cosmic battle” perspective - why would Satan want our society to adopt socialist anything?

Imagine this. You have 2-4 kids, all who will need “their share” of the available, limited, diminished healthcare resources.

You see your neighbor making choices that “put a burden on the system”, whether it be smoking, eating unhealthy foods, not exercising, etc.

You’re not likely to have a “live and let live” viewpoint towards his choices. You’re likely to resent him for using “your kids’ healthcare resources”. You’re even likely to HATE him.

Satan’s purposes well served. And, you’re VERY likely to want the gov’t to “do something about” his choices, limiting everyone’s freedom in the process.

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I’m sorry, I’m having a hard time relating your comments to the speech Ryan gave. Maybe you could clarify for me.

[wolfcreek]

“Alas, he’s way too much of an “extremist” to be electable”

This is exactly what many have been led to believe. The Progressives are the *extremist*.

Denial of history will allow them to have their way. They’re counting on it.