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To: garjog; All
Here's what I want them to explain to me. The big bang theory says that all of the dust and gas that formed the universe condensed down into a very small area and then exploded and this formed the Universe.

I want to know what formed the dust and gas in the total emptiness of space. The material that formed the planets had to come from somewhere but no scientist covers that, they kind of skip over it as if we are to just except the fact that 10s of millions, or trillions or more, of tons of dust, gas and other debris was just floating around in space(which, BTW, seems endless)with no apparent beginning. so, if someone can tell me where that material came from, and do it convincingly, I would be grateful.

11 posted on 02/15/2010 9:04:27 PM PST by calex59
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To: calex59

Energy. Before matter, time, and space...there was pure energy.


13 posted on 02/15/2010 9:18:38 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: calex59
Well, actually I am reading a book on this. It is called God and the New Physics by Paul Davies. It is 25 years old, but explains a lot.

I don't think that anyone agrees that all matter and energy collapsed into a single spot. That is the steady state theory which I think has been shown to have some problems with the math.

It seems that the universe began as a pea sized singularity in which all matter, space and time was fused into one thing. As mind boggling as it may seem, there was no space around this pea sized ball because space and time only came into being as product of the explosion.

It just popped into existence. I guess that this kind of popping occurs on the sub atomic level all of the time.

Theists believe in a Creator who is outside of space and time and created the ball and caused it to explode. The big bang theory seems eerily like Geneses chapter one and the doctrine of Creation ex nilio (out of nothing).

However, as you might expect, there are physicists who try to come up with other explanations to deny what I think is the obvious answer (God did it). For them, the universe just popped into existence for no reason.

15 posted on 02/15/2010 9:22:39 PM PST by garjog (Used to be liberals were just people to disagree with. Now they are a threat to our existence.)
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To: calex59
Believe it or not the old Rabbis defined how it all came about in the “Kabbalah” teachings. Take a look at the concept of the “Tzimtzum” “http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzimtzum";. Strange as it seems they believed in Eleven “Emanations” predating the eleven demenisions of string theory by thousands of years.

“ Only in the future will it be possible to understand the Tzimtzum that brought the 'Empty Space' into being, for we have to say of it two contradictory things... [1] the Empty Space came about through the Tzimtzum, where, as it were, He 'limited' His Godliness and contracted it from there, and it is as though in that place there is no Godliness... [2] the absolute truth is that Godliness must nevertheless be present there, for certainly nothing can exist without His giving it life. (Likkutei Moharan I, 64:1)
27 posted on 02/16/2010 8:08:35 AM PST by WhatsItAllAbout
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