Is that you, Noah?
hmmmm.
Here we go again...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Agassiz
Congratulations Bateman, you re-discovered Lake Agassiz...
I remember seeing a theory that the Great Basin in the cental U.S. was formed by a huge lake that was suddenly emptied, perhaps due to volcanic activity in the Yellowstone area. Don’t remember the time frame that was posited for it, though.
Where was the gigantic fresh water lake? Did they provide a location, some geology or fossil record to support their speculation. Or it this theoretical mumbling based on the exactitude of climate study models?
This appears to be theorized by scientists with measurable IQs and good morals - as opposed to the warming Klan of Klods.
uummm didn't the last ice age end 10000 years ago, which means that at 13000 years ago it would have been still going strong. So how can you have a "mini ice age" on top of a real one??
13,000 years ago?
thereabouts, I suppose, maybe more like 5,000, but who’s counting.
ping
Catastrophic flood; where have I read about this before ???
The effect of the draining of Lake Agassiz on climate has been discussed for years. Why is this “finding” different from the other dozen or so “findings” (and why is a model result called a “finding”).
Second, I guess the good professor Bateman hasn’t been watching the Arctic ice trends lately. Greenland is in no danger of sudden melting.
Third, it has been demonstrated by buoy measurements (real data, not modelled “findings”) that the N. Atlantic conveyor has not been altered one iota.
The author just couldn't resist throwing in unsubstantiated crap for the global warming crowd. The Arctic sea ice extent is setting records this year.
theory # 15,001
First, you gotta have global warming -- ...and that, you ain't got!!!
The planet has been warmer than it is now numerous times in the last 14,000 years and that didn't happen. Their theory is not cohesive.
“Bateman found that the waters flowed down the Mackenzie River, Canada’s longest, rather than the Saint Lawrence Seaway that had previously seemed the most likely route.”
Bull. Loney.
Ancient Lake Agassiz flowed south to the Missippi River and the Gulf of Mexico (when blocked by the glaciers over Hudson Bay). It could not flow uphill to the Mackenzie Valley or through the Great Lakes to the St. Lawrence.
The climatologists get published in Nature and cannot even check an elevation map. Nature cannot even check an elevation map. The rush to support global warming is so strong that they just ignore facts which have been known for 150 years.
The continental divide is at Browns Valley Minnesota. North of Brown’s Valley, the water flows into Hudson Bay and the Arctic ocean. South of Browns Valley, the water flows south into the Gulf Mexico.
Brown’s Valley is only 200 feet higher than Lake Winnipeg and whenever the glaciers blocked access to Hudson Bay for melt water, it flowed south. The ancient river valley Warren is easily seen on topographic maps.
You can see the river channel and even the shoreline of Lake Agassiz at the top of this picture.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:River_Warren_Valley.gif
No, its melting at a rate well within recent historic norms. On the other hand, the meltwater from the retreat of the North American continential glacial shield was a volume of water beyond all comprehension. The Great Lakes are the tiny puddles that were left over in the low spots. If this release was sudden, as occurred with the flooding of the Black Sea through the Bosphorus Strait, or the breach of the ice dam at Lake Missoula; then it was a truly significant event that may indeed have disrupted the Gulf Stream. The piddly little melting of today can do no such thing.
And they wonder why the public no longer takes them seriously.
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Lake Agassiz was an immense glacial lake located in the center of North America. Fed by glacial runoff at the end of the last glacial period, its area was larger than all of the modern Great Lakes combined, and it held more water than contained by all lakes in the world today.[1]
The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization
by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith