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To: LeoWindhorse

It’s not really DADT that’s the problem.

Here’s the problem, from my POV...

An “out” gay in the unit may or may not be a problem for unit cohesion, esprit de corps, and other aspects of military order. On my CG cutter there was a guy who was pretty light in his loafers, and we all pretty much figured he was batting for the other team. But he was good at his job and nobody really cared. It didn’t matter much in his case.. But even so... military units are NOT the place for social experiments. They exist to kill people and break things. Nothing else matters. No further energy should be spent on the topic.

A “closeted” gay, though, is another matter altogether. And it remains a problem with or without “DADT”. A closeted gay is an *enormous* security risk. They are the ones that will be turned as an agent, in order for their secret not to come out. A closeted gay in the military, say, with a wife and kids... and his career, would probably do *anything* to keep that secret from wiping out his whole world. That’s who every Intel manual in the world tells their operators to work on to “turn”. Ours too.


6 posted on 06/19/2010 12:49:12 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius

Back in the early 80’s the GA DOT conducted an undercover sting operation at the rest stop on I-20W about 15-20 miles west of Atlanta. The reason behind the operation was because of numerous complaints of homosexuals trying to “pick up” sex partners and conducting lewd sex acts on the premises. One of the undercover investigators told me later(I worked for the State of GA at the time) you wouldn’t believe just who all they had caught- a metro county fire chief, several ministers and pastors, and one very well-connected full bird colonel out of Fort Mac. One who also had a wife and kids... ...talk about a security risk-and this was almost 35 years ago.

They eventually had to close down the rest stop completely because even with all the stings, the homosexuals continued flocking to it.


13 posted on 06/19/2010 4:49:03 AM PDT by snuffy smiff (imagine if the GOP grew a brain-and threw all RINOs OUT! But that would also require a spine *sigh*)
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To: Ramius

If DADT is repealed, every gay serviceman will have a JAG officer on speed dial.

There will be endless complaints that the way the military operates is either explicitly or implicitly discriminatory to homosexuals.

The other effect of the repeal will be to effectively drive straight women entirely out of the military.


51 posted on 06/19/2010 10:59:40 AM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for, it matters who takes office.)
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To: Ramius

The closeted gay isn’t a problem, unless he’s had sex a month ago with an HIV infected ‘partner’ and now is in a position where he may be donating blood.


63 posted on 06/19/2010 11:43:32 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: Ramius
Good points.

Also the threat of HIV in combat environment should be more than enough to stop this but of course it won't.

71 posted on 06/19/2010 1:19:21 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: Ramius

Repealing DADT won’t solve that issue. There will still be what you call “closeted gays” in the military. The preference would be no gays at all, they come with too many problems. Any problem is a security issue, debts, alcholism, drugs, affairs.........the military just needs good all around hard working truthful well adjusted people if there are any of them left.


108 posted on 09/05/2010 7:42:25 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys)
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