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To: Jim Robinson
John McCain is my enemy.

You say McCain's an enemy because he has allied himself with Democrats far too often. I think that's true and I get frustrated and angry at it. But I'm not myopic and I won't throw a tantrum because I didn't get my way. If I get one vote better than a Democrat, then I'll take that over the actual Democrat. The true enemy is Obama and Pelosi and Reid. Period.

If we cannot fight for conservatism on FR, where can we?

"We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender" -- Winston Churchill

With all due respect, this is just an internet forum. Just like Little Green Footballs or FrumForum (or whatever he's calling it now). Men and women greater and more noble than I have fought for principles of conservatism in places with greater impact and greater risk than an internet forum.

If we cannot fight for conservatism during the primaries, when can we?

Please do. Advocate for your candidate, oppose your opponent. And, most importantly, present good arguments that counter the ones of your opposition.

Has it occurred to you that, perhaps, by not presenting a place where supporters of Hayworth could effectively argue against the arguments of McCain supporters that Hayworth's campaign got soft and insulated?

What if this approach is counterproductive? The great advantage of the conservative movement is that liberals are so uninformed. They've gotten weak because they think that everybody agrees with them.

In short, if you give aid and comfort to my enemy, I don’t want you around.

That's your right. But moving McCain so far and forcing him to take positions in opposition to his previous positions is a major success. More importantly, he's locked himself in to some of these. Take the victory and use it. Don't fight battles that are over.

I believe that true conservatism is persuasive and compassionate. I don't believe that it operates by aping the Left's organizational paradigms.

290 posted on 07/07/2010 2:06:56 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for, it matters who takes office.)
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To: AmishDude

With all due respect, B/S. I’ll fight my wars my way and I’ll be up front about it. John McCain is a backstabbing traitor and a lying SOB and I won’t take smack from aiders and abettors of treason!!

FUJM!!

Go, JD, GO!!

Rebellion is brewing!!

Those who don’t like it can take a flying leap at a rolling donut. IOW, don’t let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya!!


291 posted on 07/07/2010 2:13:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: AmishDude

By the way, screw compassionate conservatism. There is no such thing. RINOism is liberalism!! Compassionate conservatism equal epic fail!!


294 posted on 07/07/2010 2:15:16 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: AmishDude; Jim Robinson
That's your right. But moving McCain so far and forcing him to take positions in opposition to his previous positions is a major success. More importantly, he's locked himself in to some of these. Take the victory and use it. Don't fight battles that are over.

Again.. you sho a lack of knowledge about McCain and Arizona... EVERY TIME her runs here he runs to the right and the reverts to things like McCain-Kennedy as soon as he is re-elected... this is the first time he has actually had anyone in the GOP oppose him in the primary and he has grown complacent and lazy and rarely even appears in Arizona short of election day.. even the dems have never really given him much to worry about here..but he still always pretends to be conserative until his seat is safe for another six years.

McCain is the poster boy for term limits, I think you probably don't know a tenth of the stuff about him that us who live here know.... like he regularly gets free weekend gambling trips for him and his buddies on the Indian Reservations around the country... they know who their friend is.... his campaign held one of the sleeziest pro-illegal immigration men in this country -- Juan Hernandez -- and after Michelle Malkin exposed this Juan went underground but bragged he was still on the campaign and to this day AFAIK he is still part of the McCain team.. as the same people are running the campaign here in AZ and unlike against Obama they are using scorched earth against JD to make him look like the anti-Christ and McCain look like the next coming.

304 posted on 07/07/2010 2:53:17 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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