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Baghdad attacks on Christians prompt archbishop's call for mass exodus
The Guardian ^ | 10/11/2010 | Martin Chulov

Posted on 11/10/2010 3:07:21 PM PST by markomalley

The martyr in their midst was known all around the area. But in case anyone had missed it, a mourning sign had been posted outside Saad Adwar's house in the Baghdad suburb of Kampsar, revealing exactly where he lived.

It said simply that Adwar had been killed "by the hand of a spiteful and hateful enemy while he prayed to his holy God in Our Lady of Salvation church" nine days ago.

This morning, the terrorists who had killed 44 of Baghdad's Christians at their place of worship, came hunting them once more – this time in their homes.

They struck 10 times just after 7am in six different places in Baghdad, almost all of them Christian houses.

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The Islamic State of Iraq, a front group for al-Qaida, had heralded attacks on Christians in a web statement posted after the church massacre. It gave the Coptic Church in Egypt 48 hours to "free" the wives of two priests whom it claimed had converted to Islam and were being held against their will. Failure to do so, it pledged, would lead to "swords above the necks of Christians".

After the warning, the Iraqi Orthodox archbishop, Athanasios Dawood, called for Christians to emigrate.

"I say clearly and now – the Christian people should leave their beloved land of our ancestors and escape the premeditated ethnic cleansing," he said in a statement to CNN delivered from London. "This is better than having them killed one by one."

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholicsiniraq; exodus; flee; iraq; iraqichristians

1 posted on 11/10/2010 3:07:23 PM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Did any of Christ’s Apostles ever say: “This area is too dangerous for Christians. We had better get out and stay out?”


2 posted on 11/10/2010 3:10:57 PM PST by iowamark
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To: markomalley

Christ have Mercy. St. Michael the Archangel, pray for them.


3 posted on 11/10/2010 3:16:14 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: iowamark
Did any of Christ’s Apostles ever say: “This area is too dangerous for Christians. We had better get out and stay out?”

Easy to say from America.

The truth is, the new testament clearly indicates that early persecution, and subsequent fleeing from it, was the cause for the spread of much of the gospel.

Acts 8

1 And Saul approved of their killing him.

The Church Persecuted and Scattered

On that day a great persecution broke out against the church in Jerusalem, and all except the apostles were scattered throughout Judea and Samaria. 2 Godly men buried Stephen and mourned deeply for him. 3 But Saul began to destroy the church. Going from house to house, he dragged off both men and women and put them in prison.

4 posted on 11/10/2010 3:18:53 PM PST by JOAT
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To: iowamark

On the other hand, they are being murdered both at Mass and home, and are apparently getting no support from their government. LORD knows they won’t get any help from Obama. Heaven help them.


5 posted on 11/10/2010 3:19:10 PM PST by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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To: markomalley

According to his new book, George Bush is real proud of what he accomplished in Iraq! I wonder if he’s be as proud if it were Baptists or some brand of Calvinist those Mohammedans were killing over there?


6 posted on 11/10/2010 3:21:51 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: iowamark

I’m sure Christians probably have had to flee before Islam in the past, although the difference is that in earlier times, they had support from the secular rulers, who would send armies and fight battles to keep the Muslims from conquering their land and enslaving them.

Now the appeals of Christians fall on deaf ears in the West. I saw a very sad photo this morning of a large demonstration of Iraqi Christians, with a group holding a banner calling for the world to speak out in their defense. Fat chance.

We have American troops practically next door to the Cathedral, and while they were part of the group that tried to rescue the Christians, other than that there has been no US military defense of the Christians. And there hasn’t even been a voice raised on their behalf, certainly not by our Muslim president or by any leader, to my knowledge.

Also, don’t forget, most likely they’re not even going to be able to emigrate because no country will take them. In general, Arab Christians do not qualify for refugee status here; Bush tried to change that, but failed.


7 posted on 11/10/2010 3:26:59 PM PST by livius
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To: markomalley

Some will blame GWBush for this.

Why? Did he chose the course, set the course, encourage the course, support the course that members of sectarian militias among the Iraqis chose to take?

No, he didn’t.

The fall of Saddam gave the people of Iraq an opportunity.

What they chose to do with it was not predestined, or inevitable.

Responsibility for these kind of outcomes rests with the Iraqi people; period.


8 posted on 11/10/2010 3:27:48 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Kolokotronis
I wonder if he’s be as proud if it were Baptists or some brand of Calvinist those Mohammedans were killing over there?

Really?

I sincerely doubt 'W' is happy or proud that Coptic Christians are being murdered by raghead Satan-worshippers.

9 posted on 11/10/2010 3:28:01 PM PST by JOAT
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To: Kolokotronis

That would be Methodist in GB’s case, but yes, he is clueless.


10 posted on 11/10/2010 3:36:37 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: iowamark; markomalley

***Did any of Christ’s Apostles ever say: “This area is too dangerous for Christians. We had better get out and stay out?”***

Act 8:1 And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles.


11 posted on 11/10/2010 3:56:31 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: iowamark; JOAT

Yes, as JOAT’s citation from Acts shows. I also seem to recall that the Holy Apostle Paul had to flee Damascus because of a plot to kill him, being lowered over the wall in a basket.

It has always been the tradition of the Church to flee persecution if possible, and accept martrydom only when flight is impossible.


12 posted on 11/10/2010 4:01:20 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: JOAT

“I sincerely doubt ‘W’ is happy or proud that Coptic Christians are being murdered by raghead Satan-worshippers.”

Bush’s new book makes it quite clear that he is VERY proud of his foreign policy, the one that made Eastern Christians dispensible. Besides, as is made evident every day here on FR, Eastern Christians are really quite Christian enough in the world of the Right here in America. He is proud because the deaths of Eastern Christians don’t count in his world.


13 posted on 11/10/2010 4:05:37 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: JOAT
"Besides, as is made evident every day here on FR, Eastern Christians are really quite Christian enough in the world of the Right here in America."

Correction:

Besides, as is made evident every day here on FR, Eastern Christians are NOT really quite Christian enough in the world of the Right here in America.

14 posted on 11/10/2010 4:08:52 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: The_Reader_David

I seem to remember a certain famous family fleeing also...

Freegards


15 posted on 11/10/2010 4:10:35 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: JOAT

Christians are being murdered all over the middleeast, afghanistan and palistan as well as countries in Africa too, is that the fault of W or a savage cult?


16 posted on 11/10/2010 4:21:56 PM PST by Americanexpat
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To: Kolokotronis
Besides, as is made evident every day here on FR, Eastern Christians are really quite Christian enough in the world of the Right here in America.

I suspect you meant to say: "Eastern Christians are really NOT quite Christian enough in the world of the Right...."

So evidently you've gotten some sort of backlash on this website. Sorry to hear that.

I'm not a W fan, never was, but to equate a bad foreign policy stance to being happy that Christians of some stripe or another are being murdered is a stretch.

I very much agree that American foreign policy has been absolutely wrong in supporting evil Islamic regimes over Christian nations/peoples for several decades. (Serbia anyone?) That needs to change soon, as well as stopping the importation of islamic settlers, such as the Somalis.

Importing Egyptian/Iraqi Christian exiles would be much better for our nation than the non-integrating Sharia following muslim refugees the government seems to prefer.

17 posted on 11/10/2010 4:29:38 PM PST by JOAT
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