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Queens gets its own 'missile' attack
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/queens/nyc_missile_whCKDgGXTK9J4lGuuxVgeO ^

Posted on 11/11/2010 11:15:44 AM PST by Red in Blue PA

First California. Now they're shooting at Queens!

Two days after a mysterious vapor trail appeared at sundown off the Los Angeles coast -- triggering fears of an enemy missile attack -- a stunning replay occurred in the sky over Far Rockaway.

A passer-by snapped a photo of a billowing streak yesterday afternoon at around 5 p.m.

Like Monday's scare on the West Coast, it looked like the exhaust from a just-launched missile.

What caused the contrail visible from the Rockaways also is not known.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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1 posted on 11/11/2010 11:15:48 AM PST by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

Actually this one makes sense as a contrail.

Note that it is dissipating in its distal portion.

Note how intact it is near the aircraft.

Not how it is WIDER and more distinct as the aircraft approaches the camera.

Contrast the above with the pics from LA.

I don’t know what that was out in CA, but it was either the world’s oddest perspective on a contrail, or ... it was an exhaust plume.


2 posted on 11/11/2010 11:19:51 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I suspect the mystery CA launch was a U-2/TR-2 from NAS POINT MAGU or Moffett Field. They initially climb at a 45-60 degree angle to the horizon.


3 posted on 11/11/2010 11:20:00 AM PST by pabianice
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To: Red in Blue PA
Photobucket YOU DECIDE...YOU BETTER BELIEVE YOUR LYIN' EYES.
4 posted on 11/11/2010 11:20:09 AM PST by RetSignman ("It's about saving our Republic, STUPID")
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To: Red in Blue PA

Left, then right, then middle?


5 posted on 11/11/2010 11:20:10 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Best Cook on Free Republic! ;-))
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To: Red in Blue PA

Enlarge that a bit, and I’ll bet you could count the engines on that airplane.


6 posted on 11/11/2010 11:23:09 AM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet (800 and a wakeup)
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To: Red in Blue PA
That one looks like a contrail and If I saw it, I wouldn't think twice.
The California one? That was a missile.
7 posted on 11/11/2010 11:24:32 AM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: RetSignman

Guess I’ll have to upgrade my graphic images.


8 posted on 11/11/2010 11:28:10 AM PST by RetSignman ("It's about saving our Republic, STUPID")
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To: RetSignman
Nice.

The missile contrails are shown complete. The aircraft contrails are shown close in, so as to hide the "old" parts thyereof. It is comparing apple cores to apples ... it is fundamentally flawed, so badly so as to call into question the honesty of the person who put it together

9 posted on 11/11/2010 11:29:03 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I don’t care if it is contrails those nasty Chinese or Koreans shouldn’t be firing contrails at us either.


10 posted on 11/11/2010 11:31:33 AM PST by bkepley
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To: IrishCatholic
The video showed a missile. A jet contrail is water vapor and dissipates rather quickly. A rocket's plume is made of of the products of combustion. It is denser and more opaque. It is not wispy like a cloud.
11 posted on 11/11/2010 11:34:25 AM PST by Never on my watch (Never let a kid play with matches or run with scissors; and never give a gavel to a Democrat!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Was there a center fuel tank explosion up there anywhere?


12 posted on 11/11/2010 11:35:41 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: IrishCatholic
The California one? That was a missile.

Yea, and Forrest Gump shook hands with JFK. Please have some self-respect for your own credibility. I hate to see otherwise bright people dig in to a bad position. Not you specifically, but some FReepers have sold the missile theory so hard that no amount of evidence to the contrary will bring them back around to reality.

And if science proves this was a missile, I will be the first one to say I was wrong and will gladly take the ridicule.

13 posted on 11/11/2010 11:43:35 AM PST by Niteranger68
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To: Red in Blue PA

That is a simple contrail. It dissipates fairly rapidly and is easily seen to be above the clouds on the horizon.


14 posted on 11/11/2010 11:53:28 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

There used to be better sundowns in that location. The photochemical smog in Jersey must have lessened.


15 posted on 11/11/2010 12:10:13 PM PST by decimon
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To: Niteranger68
OK, Forrest shook hands with JFK. Therefore everything can be discounted.

What bright people do is consider the possibilities. They don't discount those that disagree with them without proof.

So far there is none either way. What is there, is the common observation of contrails by anyone who ever looked into the sky. I have, and you probably have too, watched contrails being made by jets as they flew over. You have watched contrails drift and spread, and you have seen and watched contrails at different altitudes criss cross in different directions.

The California one was completely different. I saw the pictures and watched the online video. What I also see is the lack of credible explanation from anyone on the source.

I do consider optical illusions and so the one seen here from NY appeared unremarkable. The California one looked like a missile launch. It looks like launches both military and space shuttle type plumes.

Now no “science” is going to prove anything one way or another. There is nothing to test. It's gone. That's it. There is no evidence so far, so that is a strawman by you.

I'm not a conspiracy guy. But you don't point at a cow and call it a pig. As for my credibility, what you think of it really doesn't enter into it. I don't check on your approval any more than I expect you to ask for mine. I would hope, though, in the future you have more of an open mind.

The California one was a missile launch. Who did it, military, amateur on a boat, foreign power, whoever, is a question. Even Janes Miliatry editor for missiles and rockets called it a missile launch.Doung Richardson: “It’s a solid propellant missile,” he told the Times. “You can tell from the efflux [smoke].”

So if there is credible indication it wasn't a missile launch, I'll consider it. All I've seen in the news is more smoke than the plume as people CYA.

16 posted on 11/11/2010 12:12:56 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Photobucket I posted several photos from different distances, here's another one, arrogantbustartd. How is posting ACTUAL photos make me a liar?
17 posted on 11/11/2010 12:13:39 PM PST by RetSignman ("It's about saving our Republic, STUPID")
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To: Red in Blue PA
Just more swamp gas.


18 posted on 11/11/2010 12:19:15 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: RetSignman
How about you, since you're the one trying to make some point, posting aircraft contrails that cover the entire sky and are to the same scale as your missile contrails? Hmmm? Here's a hint: if the aircraft can be discerned in detail, the scale is wrong.

Make your case ... or not.

Just don't whine and moan when folks don't find your case particularly convincing.


19 posted on 11/11/2010 12:22:23 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The MSM sure is trying to manufacture an “Oklahoma City type event” to try to save Teh Won.


20 posted on 11/11/2010 12:30:26 PM PST by Nahanni
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