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Driver held in Calif motorcycle crash that kills 5
Associated Press ^ | Nov. 14, 2010 | ELLIOT SPAGAT

Posted on 11/14/2010 11:32:50 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY

SAN DIEGO (AP) -- A man was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence after he slammed his car head-on into a group of motorcycle riders celebrating their club's 10th anniversary, killing four motorcyclists and his companion, authorities said Sunday.

The driver, Carlos Rodriguez Bobadilla, was among six people injured in Saturday's crash on a remote desert highway, said California Highway Patrol Officer DeeAnn Goudie.

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To: garyhope

Poor guy was just driving the drunken cars that Americans won’t drive.


21 posted on 11/14/2010 12:59:23 PM PST by DPMD (~)
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To: Mrs.Liberty

To the right, then overcorrecting to the left, then still traveling 60 mph at impact. What was his speed before swerving 80-90+?


22 posted on 11/14/2010 12:59:30 PM PST by Old Flat Toad (Pima County, home of the single vehicle accident with 40 victims.)
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To: DoctorBulldog

Apparently the bikers were blocking his path to citizenship.


23 posted on 11/14/2010 12:59:58 PM PST by DPMD (~)
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To: Old Flat Toad
To the right, then overcorrecting to the left, then still traveling 60 mph at impact. What was his speed before swerving 80-90+?

If the shoulder is not paved just as well as the lane, driving onto it at any speed above 20-30 mph is asking for trouble. If he did that at 60 mph or 90 mph the end result would be probably the same - complete loss of control.

But a sober driver, caught in such a situation, would have reacted faster, probably wouldn't be driving too fast, and perhaps would be able to slow down enough to enter the right shoulder and stay there.

24 posted on 11/14/2010 1:50:19 PM PST by Greysard
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To: Beowulf9
“The arrest was made when officers smelled alcohol on his breath about five hours after the crash, Goudie said. Results of a blood test were pending.

Five hours after something like that there would alcohol on my breath also. Where was he during those five hours. Was there alcohol on his breath at the scene of the accident?

25 posted on 11/14/2010 1:58:03 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: dragnet2

....swerved left.....

Not according to witnesses I talked to at the scene.


26 posted on 11/14/2010 2:04:03 PM PST by Ajnin
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To: Ajnin
A group of motorcyclist on one side of the road with Honda vehicle behind them...The Honda decides to pass the bikes... As the Honda passes, an on-coming car sees the Honda, instead of swerving to the right, the on-coming car driven by intoxicated Carlos Rodriguez Bobadilla swerves left, crossing the line, into oncoming traffic, killing these motorcyclist.

swerved left..... Not according to witnesses I talked to at the scene.

Well? What did the witnesses say to you?

27 posted on 11/14/2010 2:07:45 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Ajnin
From multiple reports:

Intoxicated Carlos Ramirez Bobadilla, of Mexicali, *Mexico*, swerved his white Dodge Avenger to the right shoulder to avoid the Honda and then overcompensated by swearing *left* into oncoming traffic, killing the motorcyclist.

28 posted on 11/14/2010 2:24:01 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: DPMD

LOL!

Cheers


29 posted on 11/14/2010 3:15:32 PM PST by DoctorBulldog (Here, intolerance... will not be tolerated! - (South Park))
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To: Ajnin
More dead Americans.....

Bttt...

Intoxicated Carlos Ramirez Bobadilla, of Mexicali, *Mexico*, swerved his white Dodge Avenger to the right shoulder to avoid the Honda and then overcompensated by swearing *left* into oncoming traffic, killing the motorcyclist.

30 posted on 11/14/2010 3:18:41 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Domangart

Usually IMO if you can smell the odor of old booze it is being excreted through the skin pores/sweating it out.

I have smelled that to many times to count on people in public.
Detox smell.

Whatever this is going to be a tough one and too many lives lost.

The attitude of the biker towards the Mexican was (I can’t think of the appropriate word) very fill in blank (forgiving? Understanding?)


31 posted on 11/14/2010 3:54:01 PM PST by Global2010
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To: It's me

And it will be impossible IMO to prove if booze played a part in how he handled his vehicle that resulted in mayhem.

Gonna be a tough trial.
Hope they find the Gold car who witnesses claim initiated the whole mess.


32 posted on 11/14/2010 3:57:35 PM PST by Global2010
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To: It's me
This accident was caused by a driver who, left the scene of the accident after trying to pass the motorcyclists

Wrong...Ya got an intoxicated Mexican that was impaired, that caused the accident, killing 4 motorcyclist and his own passenger.

33 posted on 11/14/2010 3:58:42 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

That clarifies the article better.


34 posted on 11/14/2010 4:01:23 PM PST by Global2010
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To: Global2010
Smith doesn't blame Ramirez, despite the allegation that he was driving under the influence. He considers Ramirez a victim because his companion died.

Smith clearly don't get it...

CHP said Ramirez smelled of alcohol hours after the collision. Clearly Ramirez was impaired by alcohol, should have never been on the road, and was impaired to the point where he lost control of his vehicle when all he had to do was pull to the right shoulder...

Instead he lost total control, swerved back left, crossing the center line, killing 4 motorcyclist.

35 posted on 11/14/2010 4:06:04 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Mrs.Liberty

See #26.


36 posted on 11/14/2010 4:07:24 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Mexicans kill more of us each year than do the Taliban.


37 posted on 11/14/2010 4:11:59 PM PST by NoLibZone (Homosexuals oppose diversity.)
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To: DoctorBulldog

I cross river,
Poor and broke,

Take bus,
See employment folk.

Nice man
Treat me good in there,
Say I need
Go see Welfare.

Welfare say,
‘You come no more,

We send cash
Right to your door.’

Welfare checks,
They make you wealthy,

Medicaid
It keep you healthy!

By and by,
Got plenty money,

Thanks to you, TAXPAYER dummy.

Write to friends
In motherland,

Tell them
‘come, fast as you can’

They come in buses
And Ford trucks,

I buy big house
With welfare bucks.

They come here,
We live together,

More welfare checks,
It gets better!

Fourteen families,
They moving in,

But neighbor’s patience
Wearing thin.

Finally, white guy
Moves away,
..
I buy his house,
And then I say,

‘Find more aliens
For house to rent.’

In my yard
I put a tent.

Send for family
They just trash,
...
But they, too,
Draw welfare cash!

Everything is
Very good,
Soon we own
Whole neighborhood.

We have hobby
It called breeding,

Welfare pay
For baby feeding.

Kids need dentist?
Wife need pills?

We get free!
We got no bills!

TAXPAYER crazy!
He pay all year,
To keep welfare
Running here.

We think America
Darn good place!
Too darn good
For white man race.

If they no like us,
They can go,
Got lots of room
In Mexico .


38 posted on 11/14/2010 5:10:14 PM PST by B4Ranch (Conflict is inevitable; Combat is an option. Train for the fight.)
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To: ransomnote

yes, apparently he was legally in the country and he was just a few miles from the border. What really has me confused is they didn´t smell any alcohol at the scene nor suspect him of anything until five hours later...how do you suddenly smell alcohol five hours later and test someone? It seems he could have drank after the accident because of what he just went through...who wouldn´t want a stiff one after all that mess? The accident wasn´t his fault according to witnesses..it was some idiot in a gold Honda..I can´t believe that no one went after the Honda.


39 posted on 11/14/2010 7:23:40 PM PST by merena
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To: DoctorBulldog

Nope, it doesn´t seem he is illegal..he LIVES in Mexico..he was in the US just miles from the border..lots of folks who live in Mexicali have border pass cards..and he drove across the border in his car..not likely he would be illegal.


40 posted on 11/14/2010 7:25:21 PM PST by merena
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