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Israel wants F-35s despite snubbing Obama
UPI ^ | 12/17/2010 | UPI

Posted on 12/17/2010 8:50:57 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

Despite torpedoing U.S. President Barack Obama's Middle East peace drive, Israel is still trying to sweet-talk Washington into providing 20 F-35 stealth fighters it promised free of charge in return for a settlements freeze in the occupied West Bank.

Washington withdrew the offer after the government of Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, dominated by right-wing parties, refused to extend a 10-month halt in settlement building for 90 days, the Palestinian condition for continuing the talks.

In the face of Israel's refusal, the U.S. administration withdrew the offer of free F-35s worth $3 billion, along with other incentives it had put on the table.

But Israeli officials say Netanyahu's government is still trying to work out a deal to get the 20 radar-evading, fifth-generation fighters that are built by Lockheed Martin.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; binyaminnetanyahu; f35; israel; jsf
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To: mamelukesabre

I don’t see whats so great about an airframe.

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Here’s the “car” explanation: When Ford made the frame of the Taurus 40% stronger, they could choose between:

1) better handling
2) better ride
3) anything between #1 and #2

My guess for an airframe is, stronger lighter frame = faster more agile aircraft.


21 posted on 12/17/2010 11:57:29 PM PST by ROTB (Sans Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia when we finally revolt.)
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To: doc1019

You would think that the Israelis, being as ingenious as they tend to be, would have developed and manufactured an aircraft far superior to anything they could purchase.

They used to rip out the electronics and put in their own. Not sure if they still do it.


22 posted on 12/18/2010 12:51:47 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Remember March 23, 1775. Remember March 23, 2010)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

Israel is noted for selling our tech to other countries, I say they should be given or sold this advanced aircraft.


23 posted on 12/18/2010 5:38:00 AM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nov. 2, 2010 voters w/his tax bill!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

They can do it still but subject to permission from the original manufacturer. LM reportedly refused permission for them to install a home-built radar on their F-16IS.


24 posted on 12/18/2010 5:49:59 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld
In the F-35I, they will be incorporating their own technology into the F-35. This includes a 600 gallon tanks and missiles

Isn't that a sticking point?
Israel want the codes for enhancing the software and the US wants to keep it proprietary?

25 posted on 12/18/2010 7:01:09 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: Vinnie

The sticking point was the 8 million lines of code that runs the plane. Its called the source code. That will be serviced by the U.S. in the Negev Desert.Everthing has been cleared up between the U.S. and Israel. Production is coming up soon.


26 posted on 12/18/2010 7:31:45 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: doc1019

Possible answers:

1. The planes are a “promise,” whereas the buildings are a present reality. And, Fauxbama lies.

2. A little matter of three billion dollars.

DG


27 posted on 12/19/2010 2:06:54 AM PST by DoorGunner (Romans 11:25 ...until the fullness of the Gentiles have come in; 26 and so all Israel will be saved)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

Don’t we have some F-117s sitting in the desert gathering dust?
Why not rehab them and give them to Israel? At least as a stopgap.


28 posted on 12/19/2010 5:16:31 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: Vinnie

The USAF has brought some F-117s back into service.


29 posted on 12/19/2010 8:08:35 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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