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China holding rare-earth materials back from export
European Business Press ^ | February 04, 2011 | Phil Ling

Posted on 02/05/2011 5:32:01 PM PST by george76

According to the new report on the world linear and torque motor market by IMS Research, the biggest threat to the market is the continuity of supply of rare-earth magnets, as the latest reports show that the Chinese Government intends to cut export quotas of rare earth material by 35% for the first half of 2011.

It is widely accepted that China produces 97% of the world's rare-earth material and so controls the world market for it...

It poses several questions; how are direct-drive motor manufacturers going to ensure continuity of supply of rare-earth magnetic components, and what is the motivation behind the Chinese Government's manipulation of rare-earth supply? Is it simply driving up the price of a commodity under its control, or is it looking to increase local value-added production and level of technology?

(Excerpt) Read more at eetimes.de ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agenda21; china; ecos; environmentalism; mining; rareearth; rareearthmetals; rareearths
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1 posted on 02/05/2011 5:32:04 PM PST by george76
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To: george76

Of course, the United States has ample supplies of these minerals. But it isn’t economic to extract them given our business-destroying environmental laws.


2 posted on 02/05/2011 5:38:18 PM PST by BfloGuy
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To: george76

Of course, the United States has ample supplies of these minerals. But it isn’t economic to extract them given our business-destroying environmental laws.


3 posted on 02/05/2011 5:38:30 PM PST by BfloGuy
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To: george76

It appears the next non-Chinese miner scheduled to go into production is LYSDY.PK


5 posted on 02/05/2011 5:43:26 PM PST by frog in a pot (We need a working definition of "domestic enemies" if the oath of office is to have meaning.)
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To: george76
This sounds like old news. It's a highly complex situation where there are numerous rare earth mines throughout the planet but for the last couple of years the Chinese simply failed to shut all of theirs down while everybody else pretty much succeeded in the task.

The issue appears to be low levels of radioactivity that occur naturally but otherwise in the presence of rare earth elements, etc.

Best mining practices require dealing with that sort of problem FIRST. One large mine in the US is reopening this year after having been retrofitted to eliminate the radiation problem.

One of the reasons the Chinese achieved world dominance so quickly was that they have a number of mine owners who don't care ~ doesn't matter to them if there's radioactivity ~ so they opened up new mines. The Chinese government (envision bunch of guys with AKs and brown suits walking around firing on miners) has been closing such places too ~ although there's no saying that their preferred mines are any safer.

And don't get the idea that "rare earths" are "rare" ~ they aren't!

6 posted on 02/05/2011 5:44:03 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

>Best mining practices require dealing with that sort of problem FIRST.

Right. And then dealing with the problem of virtually none of these critically needed materials being on the market for many years.
- Yes, that makes sense. /s

>one large mine in the US is reopening this year

Its a step, albeit one that will increase domestic costs.


7 posted on 02/05/2011 5:52:04 PM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: muawiyah; freekitty
for the USA to be self-sufficient in critical rare-earth metals, it will be necessary for the Alaskan Bokan Mountain deposits of Ucore Rare Metals to be developed as quickly as possible, along with either Molycorp’s Mountain Pass mine and/or Rare Element Resources’ Bear Lodge property in Wyoming.

Only in this way can the USA become self-sufficient in the critical rare earths in the near term.

Canada is now turning to the idea of becoming a supplier to the world of rare-earth metals

8 posted on 02/05/2011 5:55:40 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Kat Exploration is a junior exploration company that has found rare earth metals in its Rusty Ridge property. If you believe in REE's and would like to invest in an inexpensive (for now) stock, the ticker is KATX and you can learn more HERE
9 posted on 02/05/2011 6:04:18 PM PST by Former Fetus
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To: george76
Our biggest mine is re-opening this year.

Not sure why that will increase "costs" unless you think what amounts to dust abatement and air filters in a very dirty sort of post mining extraction operation is a "cost"?

It's very easy to look this stuff up on the net.

Not that it's a good idea to let the Chinese have a monopoly on anything ~ but they don't have a monopoly on the possession of mineable rare earth deposits. We have them. They have them. Europeans have them. South Americans have them.

They are the residue of degraded thorium ores. We also have a nascent atomic energy industry that will use thorium. The Chinese are already planning to build plants to use thorium. The best part is the residue from a thorium reactor are rare earth minerals!

10 posted on 02/05/2011 6:09:11 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: BfloGuy

http://www.thoriumenergyalliance.com/downloads/usa_thorium_map.gif


11 posted on 02/05/2011 6:10:33 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

The US shuts down its rare earth mines which forces auto makers to buys rate earths from China to build the Obamatopia greenie-mobiles.

The sad fact, as you point out, is China which has almost no environmental laws and seriously abuses its laborers. Sweet irony. But it is all worthwhile because our liberal friends can drive around proclaiming “zero emissions” and feeling virtuous, holy, and smug about themselves.


12 posted on 02/05/2011 6:24:26 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Only if they have a quick $50,000 or so ~ otherwise they'll own a car but won't be able to pay their power bills!

Bwahahahaha!

13 posted on 02/05/2011 6:25:56 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; bill1952

Not sure why that will increase “costs”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2669259/posts?page=7#7

You might be refering to what bill1952 said


14 posted on 02/05/2011 6:26:51 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: guerito1

If you studied history it is full of what goes around comes around. In the 1800’s China was ruled by a backward imperial system. The established Confucian scholar ruler class feared modernity. After losing two Opium Wars which culminated in the burning of the Chinese Southern Palace by British/French troops (which contained most of the Chinese historical archives, arts and treasures going far back as the Tang Dynasty), some in the Chinese elites got it. Attempts by the reformers were stifled despite the external threat to China’s existence is real because the established classes had cultural hangups and self interests. How did the West and the US (and later Japan) treated the backward China? Well let us say it was not with respect or equality. Gunboats, Marines, concession territories (areas where Americans, Westerners and Japanese can live and no Chinese allowed in Chinese cities). The US, West and Japan established China’s tariffs, thus any Chinese fledging attempts to establish modern industries were quashed by the more efficient and established western ones. Most factories and mines in China were foreign controlled and run. If China does not give the foreign mine company what they want, they simply pull all the technicians out or call in the Marines. China was viewed as a prostrate cow to be butchered.
Now China is flushed with money and the US, EU and Japan are deep in debt. Like old China, the US and EU have cultural and political hangups that prevent them from being financially sound and resources self reliant. Segments within Western society know what needs to be done but are prevented by an established opposition based on environmentalism, political correctness, cradle to grave socialism or simple greed under the cover of free trade. As China grows and we wane, how do you think China will treat us based on our behavior towards them in the past????


15 posted on 02/05/2011 6:33:51 PM PST by Fee
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To: muawiyah
Not $50,000 -- only $42,500. See "A $7,500 electric car discount scares dealers."
16 posted on 02/05/2011 6:37:43 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Well, just darned, now all those Leftwingtards will be able to afford a new bug car.


17 posted on 02/05/2011 6:39:22 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Fee
The Chinese should feel lucky ~ that was the US Infantry there ~ the 1/15 and 2/15. Their mission was to protect the Dowager Empress, et al, from the Europeans. She gave them an ancient silver bowl. I stood guard over the thing several times ~ a privilege.

History is more than the Boxer Rebellion.

Now, how are the Chicoms going to treat other people with full thermonuclear warhead capacity mounted on ICBMs?

I'd think they'd start treating them respectfully right off the bat ~ any more traditional Chinese arrogance and things will not go well.

18 posted on 02/05/2011 6:44:04 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Fee
Otherwise your notion of cycles isn't far off the mark.

The Chinese did learn that dope is bad for your society. They found the limit of how many people you can have zonked out on opium before every other sector of the nation falls to pieces ~ it's about 15% ~ but they went higher and made sure everything was destroyed.

Amazingly Westerners think they can handle dope and get away with it. I guess that's why their teeth are falling out from unrestricted hard narcotic use.

19 posted on 02/05/2011 6:47:17 PM PST by muawiyah
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Why did you think the US protected the Dowager Empress??? It was not done for charity purposes. The US realize that if the Empress died, the reform movement which controlled southern China and kept the Boxers out can move north and take Bejing. How is the US, Japan and the West going to take advantage of a weak China head by more competent modern leaders? Old Asian strategy, never kill an incompetent general or leader, he might be replaced with a good one. For the US keeping the Dowager Empress alive served that purpose plus it was also good PR.
By the way, the southern reform movement mentioned eventually overthrew the Manchus and established an American style republic in 1911. The leader of the movement became its first President, the person was Sun Yat Sen. Ask yourself a dumb question, back in 1900 the US felt that China needs to be modern and civilized like modernized Japan, why did we protect a monarchy in lieu of supporting the southern reform movement in China modeled after Western republican ideas???? Despite our democratic and modern ideals, money and greed still talks. It happen back in 1900 and it still happens today.


20 posted on 02/05/2011 7:05:39 PM PST by Fee
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