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“This is not the view of a few isolated scientists, this is the overwhelming view of scientists who study this matter around the world,” Holdren said, adding, “There are always skeptics, there are always heretics. That’s in the nature of science.

Well, John, the skeptics are in your camp. The overwhelming view of real scientists who study this matter is that climate change is caused by the Sun, and not by a tiny, tiny fraction of carbon dioxide.

The so called "scientists" who believe in AGW all have a vested interest in AGW, and are funded to prove AGW with junk science. AGW is an acronym for Anthropogenic Global Warming, that is, man caused global warming.

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The overwhelming view of real scientists who study this matter is that climate change is caused by the Sun, and not by a tiny, tiny fraction of carbon dioxide.

Actually, neither - we do Not understand what causes the climate to change really, Real scientists or not. The problem is at the moment beyond our understanding so Everyone has an opinion. But we do have good possibilities - the two most important factors being the solar radiation and the oceans. What Rich Lindzen is doing (his scientific duty) is Debunking the notion that AGW is the reason, because its not close to being established. He has no clue (like everyone else) what changes the climate. Observations of solar radiation are surprisingly hard to account for in theory or in the models.... The models are at least 10 years of computing power away from simulating reasonable climatic changes. Oceanic observations and accurate solar radiation measurements are maybe 20 years away...so thats at least the time frame to have a better understanding of the climate..