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Instead of distancing themselves from the shenanigans, the broader climate-science community has treated the central figures in Climategate like persecuted heroes. That is a terrible mistake, because it erodes the credibility of the entire field. The suppression of legitimate debate is a catastrophe for climate science. It’s also a catastrophe for science, period.
1 posted on 12/03/2011 7:12:02 AM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi
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The warmists i.e. fraudists set themselves up the well-deserved fall they’re taking. They claimed that the science was set, no doubters, skeptics allowed. In fact, they were on the verge of trying to get skeptics treated like criminals and tossed in jail. Now it looks as though some of these fraudsters might be thrown in the klink. I doubt that will happen, but if it does, let’s start with Al Gore.


2 posted on 12/03/2011 7:26:12 AM PST by driftless2
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:: it relies on proxy data such as tree rings ::

And, according to a disciple of the Goracle, here’s how that proxy works (this is NOT from a scientist, just a “true believer” in CACA - see tag).

Larger rings indicate a warmer period because the tree is assumed to have a longer growing period. They can process more nutrients over a longer period between dormancy periods.

Get that? Larger rings show an increase of CO2 in the atmosphere and an increase in CO2 indicates a warmer period.


3 posted on 12/03/2011 7:34:55 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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It’s possible to accept the underlying science of global warming, as Mr. Pielke does, while also maintaining that substantial uncertainties still exist. Why wouldn’t they?

The answer in a nutshell based on the latest release of Climategate 2 emails:

Because the science of Global Warming as practiced by the GW advocates is no longer a science - it has morphed into a "cause". And, to these people, supporting this "cause" is more important than preserving the basic principles that are the foundation of real science. Those principles require a continuous probing of your basic theories and never-ending doubt that your assumptions are in some way flawed. Those principles are totally absent from the current "research" conducted by the Global Warming Advocates. To these people, global warming (or lately climate change) MUST be shown to be true and man-made in order to convince society to make massive, economy destroying investments in clean energy and equally massive transfers of wealth from the U.S. and European nations to the third world. Given this mindset, who would be surprised that it is junk science and not climate science that we have ended up with.

4 posted on 12/03/2011 7:40:10 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

5 posted on 12/03/2011 7:44:21 AM PST by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
The suppression of legitimate debate is a catastrophe for climate science. It’s also a catastrophe for science, period.

True that, and it would be of concern if this was about science. But it is NOT; it is about fraud, crony grantism, new world order ... anything BUT science!

8 posted on 12/03/2011 7:59:53 AM PST by NonValueAdded (At 4 AM, it is a test; at 2 PM, it is a demonstration)
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I’ll say this about the emails.

The childishness, the pettiness, the cattiness is nothing new in science. Scientists are no different in character from anyone else and in fact may be worse. Imagine a room full of Newt Ginrich’s all trying to argue that everyone is dumber than they are. It comes pretty close to what happens in science.

What’s different in climate science is the tie in with government. The most immature, thin skinned, whiny little bit*hes got control of the room and sought to cast everyone out.


9 posted on 12/03/2011 8:07:10 AM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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There is no more science, and there are no more scentists.

There are only politicists, and they deserve to be ignored.


10 posted on 12/03/2011 8:24:28 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
This is all I ever needed to know about climate change.




11 posted on 12/03/2011 8:35:58 AM PST by GloriaJane (Pro Choice = Pro Death - Pro Life = Pro LIFE!)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

If the science is “settled” why are thousands of scientist writing 10s of thousands of grants for money to study it?


13 posted on 12/03/2011 9:32:03 AM PST by DManA
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

Debate is not science.


15 posted on 12/03/2011 1:52:43 PM PST by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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New paper suggests sun may be headed for a Maunder minimum (Global Cooling)
17 posted on 12/03/2011 3:56:03 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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