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'The Oldest (Neanderthal) Work Of Art Ever': 42,000-Year-Old Paintings Of Seals Found In Spain
The Daily Mail ^
| 2-7-2012
| Tom Worden
Posted on 02/08/2012 10:36:42 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
Seals?
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posted on
02/08/2012 12:11:47 PM PST
by
Sloth
(If a tax break counts as "spending" then every time I don't rob a bank should be a "deposit.")
To: All
42
posted on
02/08/2012 12:15:18 PM PST
by
musicman
(Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
To: All
43
posted on
02/08/2012 12:15:36 PM PST
by
musicman
(Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
To: editor-surveyor
Well, obviously, if the basement of the Lincoln Memorial looks like a cave that has been dated to 3.8 billion trillion years old, the Lincoln Memorial must be that old as well...
44
posted on
02/08/2012 12:16:09 PM PST
by
MrB
(The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
To: Sloth
Careful, if the dept of interior makes the connection,
chicken fried steaks will be on the endangered species list.
45
posted on
02/08/2012 12:17:53 PM PST
by
MrB
(The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
To: ml/nj
This means that whatever was painted on the outside, supposedly long ago, should be covered up now by more CaCO3 deposited in the interim. No?Good thinking, but not necessarily so. Caves go through dry and wet periods, and when dry, there is no active accretion of speleothems. You are right that evaporating water deposits the Calcium Carbonate (or calcium sulphate, in some cases) which forms the stalagmites, stalactites, columns and other formations within the cave, but without water movement, there is no deposition.
I have been in dry caves, wet ones, and some which were dry in one part and wet in other places. So it is possible that the drawings could survive for a long period of time, just as signatures or markings on the wall of a cave do.
46
posted on
02/08/2012 12:20:48 PM PST
by
Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
To: ml/nj; BigBobber
On second look, yes, there is water on the speleothem tips nearby and on the rock behind the formation.
The 'soda straw' developing on the end of the one stalactite indicates a new period of growth and possibly previous breakage, and I have seen such (about that size) in archways of limestone buildings about 100 years old in Virginia. While it would make one suspicious, it doesn't mean that the new growth isn't a recent development.
It could be genuine, it might be a publicity stunt.
47
posted on
02/08/2012 12:27:23 PM PST
by
Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
To: blam
Are these stalagmites and stalagtite not active anymore seems funny to me they would be found on one of those instead of a wall.
48
posted on
02/08/2012 12:27:35 PM PST
by
ATOMIC_PUNK
(Any man may make a mistake ; none but a fool will persist in it . { Latin proverb })
To: ml/nj
stalactites or stalagmites (I always forget which type hangs down.) You will get several different reminders, G = ground = down.
But I find few forget that the top half of the human body does not contain the "mit", it does the other word choice equivalent.
49
posted on
02/08/2012 12:58:30 PM PST
by
thackney
(life is fragile, handle with prayer)
To: ml/nj
You can see that pigment from the drawings has been displaced downward, which suggests that the drawings have been there a long time.
50
posted on
02/08/2012 1:04:53 PM PST
by
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51
posted on
02/08/2012 1:21:51 PM PST
by
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To: fish hawk
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Playing strange games with the girls of the island
Now I have come again to the land of the fair
And the strong and the wise
Brothers and sisters of the pale forest
Children of night
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52
posted on
02/08/2012 1:31:11 PM PST
by
Zeneta
(Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
To: editor-surveyor
The long period of time theory crumbles with a trip to the basement of the Lincoln Memorial. Would you amplify this comment please. (I didn't even know that the Lincoln Memorial had a basement!)
ML/NJ
53
posted on
02/08/2012 1:39:58 PM PST
by
ml/nj
To: ml/nj
There are stalactites forming from rain water flowing over the monument, and some are about 10” long.
54
posted on
02/08/2012 1:44:09 PM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
To: ml/nj
I think PeeWee Herman’s bicycle is down there.
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posted on
02/08/2012 1:45:53 PM PST
by
MrB
(The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
To: blam
I find the seals to be derivative, the pallet to be uninspired and the whole genre to be passe. Where’s the wit? Where’s the contradiction?
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posted on
02/08/2012 1:50:11 PM PST
by
Deb
(Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
To: KarlInOhio
More seriously, I'm surprised that anything survived in a cave with that many stalactites. Those are a sign that water is leaking into the cave and moisture isn't good for artwork.
More accurately: "Those are a sign that water at one time was leaking into the cave and moisture isn't good for artwork but since this artwork is still around, everything must have remained dry since sometime before it was painted."
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posted on
02/08/2012 1:50:38 PM PST
by
aruanan
To: editor-surveyor
There are stalactites forming from rain water flowing over the monument, and some are about 10 long.
You can also see stalactites under many overpasses.
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posted on
02/08/2012 1:52:53 PM PST
by
aruanan
To: Zeneta
Yeah but I did mine without drugs. LOL
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posted on
02/08/2012 1:59:44 PM PST
by
fish hawk
(Isa. 42:12 Let them give glory unto the Lord and declare his praise in the islands. (Maui))
To: blam
60
posted on
02/08/2012 2:13:01 PM PST
by
PLMerite
(Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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