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To: Mase

Since consensus is exactly how the dangers of modern vaccines are dismissed, despite evidence to the contrary and at great professional peril if one seeks to display this evidence, and you don’t understand that, your credibility suffers.

Since you don’t know what you’re talking about in terms of the $ to be made (making sure kids are seen for their shots every 6 months keeps pediatricians in business, for example), your credibility suffers some more.

Since you think I claimed vaccines don’t do good, which I never said, your use of straw arguments now has your credibility in need of morphine. Please seek a vaccine against piss-poor debate skills and come back later.


178 posted on 02/15/2012 6:24:20 PM PST by Liberty Tree Surgeon (Mow your own lawn!)
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon
Since consensus is exactly how the dangers of modern vaccines are dismissed

You may believe they are being dismissed in the fever swamp that is your imagination, but the risks associated with vaccines are absolutely not dismissed by the medical profession or anyone else familiar with how vaccines work.

....despite evidence to the contrary and at great professional peril if one seeks to display this evidence

There are risks and benefits with all medicines. And again, the benefits far outweigh the very small chance that children will experience and adverse reaction to a vaccine. When was the last time you saw someone suffering from smallpox, polio or whooping cough? Exactly.

...and you don’t understand that, your credibility suffers.

LOL. You're uniquely unqualified to be lecturing anyone about credibility with all that tin foil wrapped so tightly around your head. Vaccines are popular, and are highly recommended by medical professionals who, unlike yourself, know what they're talking about, because their success at eliminating and preventing diseases, that at one time decimated the human population, is a fact. No consensus is needed. The evidence is overwhelming....at least to anyone who doesn't have his head buried in the sand or covered by an industrial sized roll of tin foil.

Since you don’t know what you’re talking about in terms of the $ to be made

Every time you make a statement you have the opportunity to prove that you know what you're talking about or that you are clueless. Since you've chosen the latter approach, I'd challenge you to show us how profitable vaccines are when the government has to provide financial incentives for industry to continue making them. Anyone who thinks that pediatricians need to provide shots to kids to remain in business has his tin foil wrapped so tightly he's cut off the flow of blood to his brain.

If all those pediatricians and evil big pharma are only interested in profiting from vaccines, at the expense of our children, why wouldn't they just forgo the vaccines and and make a boat load of money treating all those horrendous diseases when they make a comeback? After all, doctors don't become doctors to help prevent illness and to treat it; no, they're only in it for the money, right? All those researchers employed by big pharma are only there for the money too, right? And you know how many drug researchers? None? Yeah, that's what I thought. To believe the unmitigated crap you appear to embrace, you'd have to be one rabid conspiracy nut. And you want to talk about credibility? Sure.

Since you think I claimed vaccines don’t do good, which I never said, your use of straw arguments now has your credibility in need of morphine

You said:

You think it's suspicious that the government protects a marginally profitable industry from the wrath of the trial lawyers? If you had any idea what the hell you're talking about you'd know that the trial lawyers are responsible for many vaccine manufacturers ending production. When nobody makes vaccines, children don't get them. Oh, I see your plan now. Tell us again about how you think these vaccines do some good before suggesting that it's "suspicious" that vaccine makers are being protected because their products are analogous to tobacco. That was funny. You're as transparent as a Detroit high rise.

Then you went on to say that:

I assume you're claiming that "big pharma" is making huge money on vaccines. If you could prove that you would. But we all know it's just feelings so you won't. Let me pass you some more tin foil.

Then you finish with a flourish by saying this:

A rational person would conclude from this statement that you believe vaccines to be a "big lie" in the same way that man caused global warming is a "big lie."

Tell us again about how you never said that vaccines "don't do good." Your tap dancing needs a lot of work.

The proliferation of vaccine conspiracy idiocy like yours leads me to believe that our herd immunity is being replaced by herd stupidity.

194 posted on 02/15/2012 8:15:12 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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