[Citizen of the Savage Nation]

Agree with both of you. We should have won OH, FL, VA, and CO but didn’t. Nonetheless, we can’t just double down on failure and just chase the white vote, something I’m seeing over and over in these threads. True, the white vote has some votes left on the table we didn’t get, as we didn’t lose WI and IA because of the non white vote. However, past a certain point, you are trying to get Unionists, Socialists, Communists, and the gay vote.

[Alberta's Child]

Many immigrant groups should be easy targets for Republican candidates who can campaign with a populist theme. I have a number of Spanish-speaking immigrants who have married into my extended family, and there is a trend I've noticed with them and their families. This is a fairly typical "time line" of their voting patterns.

1. Madre and Padre are immigrants from [insert name of Latin American country here]. They come to the U.S., work hard and raise their family as good American citizens.

2. They both vote Democratic because someone (minister, friend, family member who immigrated previously, host of Spanish-language radio or TV station, etc.) tells them that Republicans are evil, rich white men who hate Hispanics.

3. Their kids grow up in this climate and in American public schools, and are reliable Democratic voters from the age of 18 into their early 20s. Their peers/classmates from the public schools are no different.

4. Their kids become gainfully employed in skilled trades or professional fields in their mid-20s and start paying taxes. Within 1-2 short years, they've basically become "liberals who got mugged."

5. After one last Democratic vote (if even that), they begin to vote their wallets and become staunch conservatives. There are many heated arguments (in Spanish) with Madre and Padre over this.

6. Some of these adult children adopt a conservative mindset that makes Pat Buchanan look like Cesar Chavez. By this time they've left most of their "white" American-born peers and former classmates behind -- both financially and politically. By now, these adult children of immigrant parents have no patience for any able-bodied creature is not gainfully employed (white, black, Hispanic, Asian, Indian, etc.).

7. At some point when the kids are in their 30s they have a brutally honest conversation with Madre and Padre, and tell them that they can't afford [insert "wish item" here -- e.g., vacation to so-and-so, new/bigger home, college fund for the grandchildren, etc.] because they're being taxed to death.

8. Madre and Padre see the error of their ways, become very remorseful, turn off TeleMundo, grow up, and become hard-core conservatives just like their adult children.

These are the people who are going to become part of the GOP core.