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MESSENGER Finds New Evidence for Water Ice at Mercury's Poles
NASA ^ | 11.29.12 | NASA Press Release

Posted on 11/29/2012 12:16:16 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll

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Too bad there's no space programany more!
1 posted on 11/29/2012 12:16:24 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll
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To: Da Bilge Troll; SunkenCiv; KevinDavis

on... Mercury?? Wow


2 posted on 11/29/2012 12:22:20 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Da Bilge Troll; GeronL

Let me know if they find Cilia-of-Gold.............

http://www.theaudiobookstore.com/stephen-baxter/cilia-gold-unabridged_bkatxt000009.aspx


3 posted on 11/29/2012 12:23:55 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Red Badger

Baxter is my favorite current SF writer.


4 posted on 11/29/2012 12:29:25 PM PST by Jack Chance
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To: Da Bilge Troll
Too bad there's no space program any more!
We sent the Space Shuttle up and down for 30 years and in return we got - nothing.
We've sent a dozen probes/rovers to Mars over 40 years and they found - nothing.
Soooo, yes, let's spend another $500-$750 million on Mercury to find - nothing.
5 posted on 11/29/2012 12:29:31 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: GeronL

Its damn cold in the shade.


6 posted on 11/29/2012 12:32:04 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

“Too bad there’s no space programany more!”

Yep, we’re watching the wind down of stuff that was in the pipeline. Too many folks here need Obamaphones!

I sure hope the Chinese accelerate their space program to fill the void that NASA is leaving.


7 posted on 11/29/2012 12:32:04 PM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

So, we subsidize a bunch of techno elites whose membership includes NASA’s Hansen, the rabid Global Warming Criminal, while Obama sucks the real working people of this country dry?

The question should be these days “If we ever in a snowball’s-chance-in-hell get out from under this tyrant and we can retire the debt he’s amassed, is it worth it to subsidize ideologues in ventures that won’t produce anything?”

I can think of humans going (being sent) to Mars, maybe even Mercury, but it won’t be friggin’ astronauts from NASA.


8 posted on 11/29/2012 12:34:42 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Jack Chance

Have you read “Cilia-of-Gold”?........


9 posted on 11/29/2012 12:38:38 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: cripplecreek

better than frying in a half second I guess


10 posted on 11/29/2012 12:40:32 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

” - - - Only with the continued exploration of Mercury can we hope to make progress on these new questions.”

Duh, is “Progress” in the language of Obamanation Communism now the opposite of “Forward?”


11 posted on 11/29/2012 1:58:37 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: oh8eleven

As far as the shuttle’s concerned, there was once a secret military mission launched where it seemed to me that it rolled more than usual that might have put it into a polar orbital trajectory. Then, when it retuned, the landing was such where they seemed to hold the nosewheel up for what I thought was a longer period that I had ever seen it. That led me to wonder if they hadn’t taken a dead Soviet military satellite that the Russians had lost track of out of orbit.

As for practical knowledge the shuttle returned a lot of data and information that could one day be put to use regarding long termed manned space flight such as a mission to Mars, the asteroids, or eve the moons of Jupiter or even Saturn.

Information gleaned thus far and continuing from Mars from Mars would aid in that type of mission. Plus the idea that there is, or may once have been life on Mars is still an open possibility. I’d sure like to know the answer difinitively.

I’d rather some of our tax money went to these types of projects even though it may seem that the reduction or elimination doesn’t even make a dent in our other spending.

At least we’re exploring the beyond, and to paraphrase the poem “High Flight”, “I put out my hand, and touched the face of God.”


12 posted on 11/29/2012 2:06:11 PM PST by onedoug
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Have you read “Cilia-of-Gold”?........

Yes, it's one one of Baxter's better early stories from the Xeelee sequence. I've read just about everything he's written.

13 posted on 11/29/2012 2:10:29 PM PST by Jack Chance
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I’d rather some of our tax money went to these types of projects ...
Why throw good money after bad? The return on the amount spent in the last 50 years is a little knowledge and then nothing.
Between paying for LBJ's great society, NASA, the takers of America, et al, I'm freakin' broke.
Ever wonder why women HAVE had to work since the late 60s? It's not equality or emancipation ... it's to pay all the damned taxes in this country.
14 posted on 11/29/2012 2:15:12 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Jack Chance

Then you ‘get’ my reference to it in my first post!.............


15 posted on 11/29/2012 2:22:02 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: GeronL; cripplecreek

As cripplecreek noted, it’s *really* cold at the poles because there is (virtually) no atmosphere. Without direct sunlight, any heat that reaches the dark craters is radiated away to the cold of empty space.

The water is thought to be formed by icy cometary impacts and/or solar wind protons reacting with oxygen on the surface. In either case, you end up with a rarified hot gas that will “bounce” around the planet until it “bounces” up and escapes gravity, or reaches the cold crater and freezes out.

A similar process occurs on the Moon for the same reason, and LRO has confirmed the presence of water in the poles in multiple ways.

MikeD, who built and aligned the UV spectrograph on LRO


16 posted on 11/29/2012 3:14:16 PM PST by MikeD (We live in a world where babies are like velveteen rabbits that only become real if they are loved.)
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To: oh8eleven

Well, I’m not sure but I think it might be the biological imperative at work. Just as our ancestors pushed their technology to its limits in exploring the New World, could they help themselves and say, no, it costs too much money? Granted there was some rate of return involved though I suspect the overall balance sheet, if there ever could be one, reflected more debit than credit.

Or, perhaps it is the Romantic in me that wishes it were so, and wishing I could go sets me to dream that, for me, some small part of Heaven would be my soul’s ability to finally know...all of existence.

So I have to disagree. This is one endeavor I support, thinking as well that it takes a strongly structured and coherent society to be able to pull it of. But I guess we both see how that’s going.

Thanks always for your service. We could have been successful there too had it not been for the democrat party that pulled the plug on us.


17 posted on 11/29/2012 4:24:20 PM PST by onedoug (RVN '68-69)
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To: onedoug

Welcome home ...


18 posted on 11/29/2012 4:47:51 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Red Badger

Oh, sure. Now if we can just invent a GUT drive...


19 posted on 11/29/2012 5:31:48 PM PST by Jack Chance
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To: oh8eleven

Thanks.

You too for sure.

God Bless You and Yours.


20 posted on 11/29/2012 10:15:45 PM PST by onedoug (RVN '68-69)
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