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1 posted on 06/08/2013 5:52:00 PM PDT by eagleye85
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The Internet is a surveillance state. Whether we admit it to ourselves or not, and whether we like it or not, we're being tracked all the time.

Except that our government is not tracking people who utter words like 'jihad, or 'bomb', or 'attack'. They are tracking people who use words like 'TEA Party', or 'pro-life', or 'support Israel'.

2 posted on 06/08/2013 5:54:22 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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They left the borders open, and WEAPONIZED the terrorists
with FAST&FURIOUS and MANPADs and more for sure.

They freed the COLE murderers, played with Hasan,
protected the Boston terrorists, and released 20,000
felons.

Anyone who trust THIS government is a fool or with al Qaeda.


6 posted on 06/08/2013 6:06:17 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: eagleye85

Every now and then Google Dashboard tells me someone in China tried to access my account. I have to laugh as all I do on this PC is surf and play RACE 07. There’s no banking or anything like that done (we do that on a much more secure PC).


10 posted on 06/08/2013 6:36:21 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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Well, after few glasses of wine.....the tentacles of NSA, reach into the economical bastions of American, and globally, hence the price of wheat bid on a contract becomes know, and then this info can be passed on to interested parties, who may have a competitive price to offer....in essence the free capital system is corrupted, and destroyed globally....all this spying and collection info, hastens the economical disaster....end of story.....


11 posted on 06/08/2013 6:36:34 PM PDT by B212
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To: eagleye85
Just remember, it's not NSA that's requesting this surveillance, it's the DOJ under Eric Holder.

Look at the leaked Verizon FISA warrant. NSA is doing the collecting only because it's been ordered to.

Why are so many media reports getting this wrong? This is just another baseless DOJ warrant signed off by Eric Holder!

Obviously, the media is still in Eric-Holder-protection mode.

12 posted on 06/08/2013 6:40:56 PM PDT by EarlyBird (This space for rent)
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I want to record your phone conversations...
I want to capture your emails...
I want to know what you search for on the internet...
I want to know what sites you've been visiting on the internet...
I want to harrass you if you're a Christian...
I want to harrass you if you're a patriotic U. S. Citizen...
I want to indoctrinate your kids...
I want to eliminate Christianity in public...
I want to protect the followers of Islam...
I want to pretend that it isn't the followers of Islam that cause almost all terrorism around the world...
I want to prevent U. S. Citizens from talking openly about who is carrying out terrorism...
I want to pretend that it's U. S. Citizen's gun rights that are causing all the problems...
I want to enforce hundreds of laws that essentially make it impossible for citizens to realize their Second Amendment rights...
I want to turn this into a Soviet Style State, and lower the A.C.O.R.N. Curtain
And then I'll blame all this on you, the loyal Citizens of the United States

14 posted on 06/08/2013 6:41:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama lied, four men died, and he went to hide...)
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To: eagleye85
The three cases he mentions are investigations of suspects. There is some legal criteria for being a suspect (it may be somewhat weak but it has to be there). Next it is quite likely that the data was gathered with a warrant.

This should not be confused with the snooping on non-suspect Americans. The NSA will simply waste billions of dollars on data that it will choke on. Does anyone think for one minute that the alleged crimes in these cases could have been detected in the mass of phone and internet records that they are collecting? Sure they would, along with 10 million false positives, rendering any true positives completely useless. More like they would not. The evidence is simply too spread out.

But just because the data is useless for preventing terrorism doesn't mean it can't be abused. I'm sure the data will only be used to go after some child marrying cult leader or some other derided figure, right?

15 posted on 06/08/2013 6:42:43 PM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: eagleye85; MestaMachine; Nachum; LucyT

The Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement:

“Why You Should Care

TPP raises significant concerns about citizens’ freedom of expression, due process, innovation, the future of the Internet’s global infrastructure, and the right of sovereign nations to develop policies and laws that best meet their domestic priorities. In sum, the TPP puts at risk some of the most fundamental rights that enable access to knowledge for the world’s citizens.”

https://www.eff.org/issues/tpp

“Son of ACTA...”
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110105/02301112524/son-acta-worse-meet-tpp-trans-pacific-partnership-agreement.shtml

“The agreement, under negotiation since 2008, would set new rules for everything from food safety and financial markets to medicine prices and Internet freedom. It would include at least 12 of the countries bordering the Pacific and be open for more to join. President Obama has said he wants to sign it by October.

Although Congress has exclusive constitutional authority to set the terms of trade, so far the executive branch has managed to resist repeated requests by members of Congress to see the text of the draft agreement and has denied requests from members to attend negotiations as observers — reversing past practice.

While the agreement could rewrite broad sections of nontrade policies affecting Americans’ daily lives, the administration also has rejected demands by outside groups that the nearly complete text be publicly released.”
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/obamas-secret-treaty-which-would-push-the-deindustrialization-of-america-into-overdrive

Read that last link if nothing else. Curls your toenails.


18 posted on 06/08/2013 6:54:08 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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We have given our kids and now our freedoms to protect one city.

F N Y C.

I no longer care one iota if NYC is attacked by the DNC’s philosophical brethren.


27 posted on 06/08/2013 7:35:17 PM PDT by NoLibZone (None here can be puzzled by why Jews walked into the cars so quietly- we are walking up the planks.)
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