Kepler-62f: A Possible Water World

Space.com ^ | January 2, 2014 | Elizabeth Howell

[dadfly]

macro evolution refutes the Bible (i.e., Genesis) by definition.

[hosepipe]

It’s just a fantasy to ever think we could manage to seek out new life, new civilizations when you can hardly get there at least in less than a century or two with present technology.

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With a decent sized snow storm it’s can be hard to get to Walmart..

And these guys to want to travel a zillion miles to get to who knows what?..
Probably run out of toilet paper first..
Next!..

[MHGinTN]

Nonsense. It depends upon your temporal frame of reference. From God’s position (at the Big Bang beginning) until our epoch is less than seven days, if the frame of temporal reference uses the doubling of the size of spacetime as an ‘each day’. Marco evolution would be only brief moments in such a day, mere blinks of God’s eye.

[dadfly]

if intelligent beings from “outer space” ever contact me (i know they’ve already contacted many others by all reports ;)), i wouldn’t be surprised to find that out at all. of course, angels kinda foot that bill already.

[sauron]

It's just a fantasy to ever think we could manage to seek out new life, new civilizations when you can hardly get there at least in less than a century or two with present technology.

Century or two?

If only it were that short....

[dadfly]

there’s no doubt God created time (and is therefore is it’s Master) along with with the universe (space, matter/energy).

I’ll bite though, why don’t you quote me a verse in Genesis where God deploys natural selection to aid in His creation. I’ll be happy to look it up.

[Little Pig]

Luminosity != total energy output. More of Kepler 62’s output is in the infrared range. Also, the planet is stated as being located in that star’s “habitable zone” which means the amount of energy those planets get is enough to allow liquid water, and their apparent size means enough atmosphere to keep it from freezing.

[lbryce]

I’ve never tought of it that way but it is absolutely true. Very interesting point.

[lbryce]

You missed the point. I've never implied there's no intelligent life out in the Universe other than our own, that I discouraged the possibility or that I wouldn't be thrilled, exhiliarated by the prospect. As William Shatner said, he considers it mathematically impossible for life not to exist other than on our planet(unless, of course you were compelled to believe mankind is singularly unique, all alone in the Cosmos, theologically speaking) considering the seemingly infinite vastness of space.

What I said was that even if somehow we discovered a planet that was Earth-like and seemed capable of harboring life, what would you do then? Hop into your starship, demand Scotty to fire up the warp engines and ask him to give it all she's got?

Even merely only sending a message that would travel at the speed of light at the incomprehensible rate of 186,000 miles per second, it would still take at least a quarter century to send a message, hope they were able to intercept it, understand it, embrace the reality of our existence, unravel the language, cultural barriers, and supposing they even gave a damm to be curious, bother about us, to send a return message, hoping we intercept, interpret it, all of which would take decades.

That's the kind of fantasy turned reality that I just don't have the emotional, existential resources, mindset to commit to on a such a long-term century-based time frame.

[lbryce]

Thank you.I’m too much of a Star Trek:The Original Series fan to make an unqualified statement as to put a limit on Mankind’s imagination, capabilities regarding what the future might hold.

[chessplayer]

More commie, godless, sodomite scientists lying and stealing our money and guns. Down with science!!!

[VerySadAmerican]

I have a question. Our “space craft” lift off from Florida and go “up” but really they’re going “out”. What would they find if they lifted off from the North Pole and truly went “up”?

[lbryce]

On that same inexplicable notion, what would they find if they lifted off from the South Pole, the very bottom of the Earth, and truly went "down"?

I'm trying to make sense out of the question you posted and the only thing I can come up with that would explain the cryptic nature of your post is that you're some sort of secret agent, either for the Federal government, say, the NSA, Homeland Security, etc. or agent for the FSB, successor to the defunct Soviet Union's KGB or lastly perhaps employed by the NKSP, North Korean Secret Police, as undercover agent on a covert mission to infiltrate the Global Pedophilia Network (GPN) gain their confidence, have them reveal their organization, sources of illicit content distributed throughout their secret membership and eventually move your up the organization as Director.

Your status as uncover agent is, unlike that of England's top agent status which is classified as 007, license to kill, your special privileged agent status is classified as BB one and three quarters, license to chill.

I see your cryptic statement as means to making contact with your local support team who would instantly recognize your query about the North Pole launch as password that coneys to them your identity as agent for NKSP and to provide you full tactical, technical support for your reconnaissance mission in the infitration of the GPN. Good Luck.

[SunkenCiv]

I need a new planet where I can resume wearing a Speedo. Thanks lbryce.

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[bert]

Rather than technology based life, I would expect a simpler form of say a hive based civilizations such as those that exist on earth. The insects are able to use their bodies and locally available materials to expand their capabilities.

That is, high degrees of social existence can be established using very primitive adaptations evolving over eons to create very complex habitats and societies. The complexity is such that we humans have not yet learned to break the codes and communicate directly with the complex earthly insect societies.

[ExCTCitizen]

I understand what you are saying. But I wonder if others are out there, do they have LIBERALS? :-)

[zeugma]

I think I understand what you're asking, and it still doesn't really make sense, except in very specific cases.

If you look at it from a cosmological standpoint, there is a slight difference in travel if one is travelling in the plane of the ecliptic as opposed to travelling at a right angle to same. The reason the vast majority of our spacecraft travel in the plane is because we want them to see 'stuff', i.e., planets, asteroids, or comets. If you are not travelling in the plane, you're going to find a dearth of things to actually study.

That is not to say that there would be no value to such a path. I suspect some day in the distant we'll see a craft launched to map the extent of the solar system's heliosphere (information about this astronomical feature at the link). It might someday be useful to map this region out, but other than that, unless a craft has a specific destination outside of the ecliptic, you'll have better chances to do science within it.

 

[hattend]

"There may be life there, but could it be technology-based like ours? Life on these worlds would be under water with no easy access to metals, to electricity, or fire for metallurgy," modeling lead author Lisa Kaltenegger, of the Max Planck Institute for Astronomy and the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, said in a statement in 2013.

1200 light years away and it can be determined that the entire planet is covered in water so there may not be fire?

C'mon!

[lbryce]

What are you talkig about? They’e even managed to make out beach front property and land development in areas near the shores of land masses.

[VerySadAmerican]

Instead of all the gibberish, answer your own question: “.....what would they find if they lifted off from the South Pole, the very bottom of the Earth, and truly went “down”? That was going to be my second question but I got tired and went to bed. I figured I could wait until morning to find out.