Posted on 06/12/2014 9:04:43 AM PDT by EveningStar
Less than twenty-four hours after the shockwaves of Eric Cantor’s defeat, the House Republican Party has decided to ignore the results as a meaningless anomaly.
They will expedite a leadership election to affirm the status quo with Cantor’s right hand, Kevin McCarthy, picked as Majority Leader.
McCarthy is squishy on a host of issues, bad on immigration, and not a friend of conservatives. House Republicans looked on the biggest electoral surprise of the year and are giving it the middle finger.
(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...
“It’s not really the stupid party...We are the stupid constituents who think the Republican party actually represents us...”
Speak for yourself. You might be stupid and vote party line in elections, but many of us dont. I will only vote for true conservatives and rufused to hold my nose and vote for Romney or McCain. The republicans have to start earning my vote, so stop with the “we” stuff and go look in a mirror.
I don’t dispute your math, but the nomenklatura within the GOP will not yield place to conservatives. The chicanery in 2012 was proof of that, and the rules changes for 2016 will be even worse. A Reagan phenomenon may well happen again, but it will be outside the moribund and decaying, closed GOP.
The largest city in his District is Bakersfield.
It's 46% Hispanic, 62% minority, and 38% white.
It's also a Central Valley farming area, so he will be Hard Left on every agricultural issue.
If he moves politically even slightly to the Right, he will risk defeat.
If he moves into Cantor's old job, or, if he competes for Speaker, he will instantly become a lightning rod for Democrat criticism.
That means he will face reelection risk at home even if he moves to the Left.
This man will be under constant political pressure to move the Republican Party even further to the Left.
We cannot allow him to move up the GOP leadership ladder.
And, if at all possible, we need to replace him as Majority Whip.
He ran on a platform that included the abolition of the Department of Education, how did that work out? He did however kill the double nickles speed limit, Carter opined he was defeated on that issue alone.
It’s not only that they’re Stupid, they are Spineless Complicit.
Nope.
Your post once again illustrates the wholesale false title of your screen name.
You are the exact opposite of "logical."
They were smart enough to decline to vote FOR liberalism. The were smart enough to see through the fantasy pretense that a vote for Romney was somehow a vote "against" leftism. Obama would have lost if Americans had had a real alternative to vote for. They didn't, so Obama stayed in place.
What's STUPID about the "stupid party" is that it assumes people aren't smart enough to understand that voting "against" liberalism is pretend; "stupid party" assumptions assume people don't understand that they are accountable for what they voted FOR. Obviously, the crucial balance of voters DO understand it, and refused to vote FOR Romney. It is the height of stupid to indulge in the fantasy that you can vote "against."
Americans are smarter than that.
Yup.
Ping for the Lion King of Uniparty alerts!!!
I think you are correct.
GOPe can only thank Boehner’s great diplomacy with conservatives....
I no longer vote for 'party'...I no longer vote for the lesser of two evils...
If a decent pro America, pro American doesn't run in the Presidential election for the Republican Party, I will vote for the first one I can find, of any party...
In my view, those who don't do the same thing don't give a flip about this country...
Well you're not a real Republican then, are you??? So it wasn't addressed to you, was it...Are you not smart enough to realize that I included myself in the 'WE'???
I see, so you think you’re in charge of deciding who the “real” republicans are. How splendidly arrogant of you. Like I said, speak for yourself.
Are you suggesting a third party?
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What is so sacrosanct about having only two choices, both of which favor the endless expansion of big government? I think there’s room for a third way.
We know what the Democrats are. The Republicans, on the other hand, conceal their true motives. Somehow they manage to deceive their base into voting from them and overlooking the fact that they say one thing and then do another. It seems to work for them.
Hey, at least Republicans and Americans weren’t stupid enough to elect Romney president in 2012.
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Given a choice of a liberal Romney vs. a radical Obama, I’d take the former. We are only beginning to see the deep destructive effects of Obama’s presidency. America made a big mistake electing and re-electing him; it is already paying a huge price for this mistake — but the damage is far from done.
The GOP has had numerous opportunities to stand up to Obama but as usual, its always the same old thing: lots of talk and no walk.
Very understandable position, especially considering that once upon a time, and for many decades, I'd have agreed with you.
Time wised me up. There is only ONE WAY to make the Republican party move to the right, and that is to vote such that liberal Republicans lose not just the primaries, but the generals as well.
Starboard, with respect and kindness, IF you had gotten your choice, and Romney had won, Obama would be long forgotten and Romney would be RIGHT NOW using a Republican administration to advance every single MAJOR issue I have been voting Republican since 1976 to oppose. When I and others who refused to vote for him blamed you for the Republican party moving hard left in the highest office in the land, would you accept accountability and responsibility for what you voted FOR?
Or would you be here saying, "Don't blame me -- I didn't vote for this, I voted against Obama!"
Here's what I finally figured out, and which I suggest you have yet to figure out: the ONLY thing that counts is what you vote FOR. Voting "against" is like hunting unicorns: successful results are eternally elusive.
I understand that you are voting on principle, and I respect that. But stop and think for a moment about the SEVERE AND LASTING lasting damage that Obama is doing to this country.
IMO there is no way that Romney, who is far from conservative, would ever sink the country to the moral, economic, and social morass that we are descending into. I have children and fear for their future. I may not have been happy with Romney, but I would not likely be frightened to the extent I now am. Our devastating national descent may in fact be unrecoverable.
To me the choice in the election was between not so good and absolutely horrible. We don’t always have the luxury of selecting between two extremes such as perfection and disaster. That’s just the way I see the world and we apparently differ on that point.
Romney may not be perfect but at least he was a patriot. Its worth bearing in mind my friend that bridges are built with tolerances to allow for a little swaying. If they were completely rigid, with no allowance for movement, they would fail.
Regards.
Indeed, you are one hundred percent mistaken in thinking so.
Principle does not guide my vote. FUNCTION guides my vote. Voting for a functional collectivist IN FUNCTION lends my support and encouragement to a functional collectivist's takeover of government.
I don't know how old you are, but I guarantee you that I have thought long and hard, VERY long and hard, about the dangers you perceive and fear, but I have applied that analyses not only to Obama, but to Romneyas well. Have you stopped and thought for a moment about the SEVERE AND LASTING damage that Romney would have done to this country with the added hit of neutering Republican opposition to it in a way that Obama could never hope to neuter it?
On Romney, I have done my due-diligence and KNOW him to be a FUNCTIONAL enabler of abortion, forced acceptance of homosexuality (social morass -- Romney would be as bad as Obama, regardless of how much one wishes it wasn't so), pro-environmentalist carbon-cap economic regulation, higher minimum wage, increased immigration and amnesty, government-run health care (economic morass -- Romney would be as bad as Obama, regardless of how much one wishes it wasn't so), activist liberal judges, and more and bigger government. The difference is that I WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING HIM FUNCTION. Principle had zero to do with I deprived him of my vote. FUNCTION had everything to do with it.
I suggest that perhaps you are the one thinking short-term and I suggest it because I used to think like you!
“And the Republican party IS the Stupid Party. “
From my point of view, it is the teaparty that is the stupid party.
Why?
The real enemy are Barack Obama, the democrats and their media and hollywood friends.
The repubicans are working to defeat democrat incumbents. The Teaparty are working to defeat republican incumbents.
This makes no sense to me.
I agree with you that it's stupid for conservatives to try to defeat Republicans. This is especially true if they succeed and the conservative loses to the Democrat in the general election.
However, we have a bunch of ignorant people here who seriously believe that it's better to have a Democrat in office than a so-called RINO.
These fools have no political savvy - which is really nothing more than common sense. The dodos don't know that in the vast majority of cases, the "RINOs" have more conservative voting records (per the ACU ratings) than the Democrats.
They also have no understanding of geographical voting patterns. In the eastern states it's very difficult to elect a conservative to a statewide office. Much of the time, the best you can hope for is a moderate.
They also don't realize that the Republican party has been factionalized for decades.
It is braindead stupidity to believe that a "RINO" is as bad or worse than a Democrat.
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