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Egypt's Sisi: Islamic "Thinking" Is "Antagonizing the Entire World" by Raymond Ibrahim
MEF ^ | January 1, 2015 | Raymond Ibrahim

Posted on 01/02/2015 2:10:00 PM PST by yoe

Speaking before Al-Azhar and the Awqaf Ministry on New Year's Day, 2015, in connection to Prophet Muhammad's upcoming birthday, Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, a vocal supporter for a renewed vision of Islam, made what must be his most forceful and impassioned plea to date on the subject.

Among other things, Sisi said that the "corpus of [Islamic] texts and ideas that we have sacralized over the years" are "antagonizing the entire world"; that it is not "possible that 1.6 billion people [reference to the world's Muslims] should want to kill the rest of the world's inhabitants—that is 7 billion—so that they themselves may live"; and that Egypt (or the Islamic world in its entirety) "is being torn, it is being destroyed, it is being lost—and it is being lost by our own hands."

[snip]I am referring here to the religious clerics. We have to think hard about what we are facing—and I have, in fact, ( addressed this topic) a couple of times before. It's inconceivable that the thinking that we hold most sacred should cause the entire umma [Islamic world] to be a source of anxiety, danger, killing and destruction for the rest of the world. Impossible!

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A most interesting article.......in a more narrow context: question: do some in the "congregation" take their marching orders to protest, loot, vandalize, or murder from those who command the 'pulpits'? If so the world is showing an enormous and deadly lack of honest leadership.
1 posted on 01/02/2015 2:10:00 PM PST by yoe
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To: yoe

Is he the new Ataturk? I hope so. We need one.


2 posted on 01/02/2015 2:24:36 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Radical Islam is about power, conquest, subjugation, and death just as every other barbaric dictatorship throughout history has been. Its just the latest example.


3 posted on 01/02/2015 2:29:04 PM PST by Sasparilla
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To: yoe

The Renaissance Sisi calls for cannot happen in the Islam faith. Its entire scripture is rife with acts of extreme indignity. It codified body of literature speaks singularly to the necessity of these indignities.
He is a voice in the wilderness who will be sacrificed by the denomic forces that dominate Islam. They believe in their heart of hearts that 1.5 billion Muslims must destroy and otherwise subjugate 6 billion non Muslims as their sacred duty. There is no corpus of literature opposing this view. The thinking he describes is dominant. It is unmitigated by the voices that Sisi represents.
The fundamental cultural cataclysm required to bring the average Muslim into an enlightened state is inconceivable. Sisi is correct in saying that Islam is destroying itself by its own hand.


4 posted on 01/02/2015 2:31:14 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
OTOH, the demagogue Rand Paul said this in support of Morsi:
Rand Slams Congress for Funding Egypt's Generals: 'How Does Your Conscience Feel Now?'
Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt's military -- even as Cairo's security forces massacre anti-government activists. [by "anti-government activists" is meant church-burning Christian-murdering jihadists]
[Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat]

5 posted on 01/02/2015 2:38:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: yoe

This is good. Finally we have a notable Muslim who can make his voice heard, who admits that we are not delusional when we see that Islam is bent on world domination. This gives the lie to the dissemblers who make deceitful claims like “jihad is about self improvement” or “Muslims only go to war in self defense”.


6 posted on 01/02/2015 2:41:02 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: yoe

How can there be any doubt that is the case?

How many radical clerics have we had to imprison, deport, etc, because they were constantly inspiring and inciting terrorists?

They use the freedom of speech and freedom of religion that Western nations guarantee against us, knowing that they can recruit armies and direct them from the mosque, and we will tolerate it far longer than we should.


7 posted on 01/02/2015 2:43:37 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Pearls Before Swine

He may wind up like Anwar Sadat. Death fatwas aren’t proclaimed anymore, they get tweeted out.

Every turbaned headbanger with a forehead growth is now going to be howling for Al-Sisi’s blood while screaming “Allahu Akbar!!!” and waving scimitars at the cameras.

Kemal Ataturk was at war with Islam & secularized Turkey to that end. His successor Erdogan declares there is only one Islam; no ifs, ands, or moderates.

If Al-Sisi has a mostly secular military on his side he might survive as Ataturk did. But Al-Sisi is on record as favoring the return of the Caliphate. Maybe that’s protective camouflage, who knows?

Anyway, Raymond Ibrahim should be read carefully for everything he has written about the Middle East. He gets it.


8 posted on 01/02/2015 3:22:33 PM PST by elcid1970 ("I am a radicalized infidel.")
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To: yoe
yikes.
The brave guy is going to get himself blowed up.
Hopefully he continues thinking and comes to Christ as the true Saviour and leaves the lie of islam behind. ... Before the islamic loons get to him.
9 posted on 01/02/2015 3:42:04 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: elcid1970

When will the Saudi money dry up?


10 posted on 01/02/2015 3:46:48 PM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

ISIS???

SISI???

ISIS???

Sissy....Sissy!!!!

Punk Bitches


11 posted on 01/02/2015 3:47:59 PM PST by LtKerst
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To: yoe

THIS is the man OBAMA tried to foil because he, Obama, preferred that maniac Morsi.

This guy is right. Islam is alienating the entire non-Islamic world and only a religious revolution which purges it of its brutality, violence, and intolerance. THEN, it might have something worthwhile to offer Humanity.


12 posted on 01/02/2015 3:51:20 PM PST by ZULU (Quo usque tandem abutere Obama patientia nostra?)
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To: Louis Foxwell
The Renaissance Sisi calls for cannot happen in the Islam faith

Agreed.

Us Infidels are lucky to have a flat out Muslim Heretic like Sisi mouthing off against Islam.
We need more usefull Idiots like him, and King Abdullah of Jordan.
They are hard to come by because the penalty for apostasy in Islam is death, and fundamental Muslims take that seriously.

Iv'e said it before, the way to defeat Islam is to know it, and poison it, by freeing the women with secular enticements.

People like the King of Jordan and Egypt's Sisi are a big help also. -Tom

13 posted on 01/02/2015 3:56:15 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse U.S. citizens and Americans. They are not necessarily the same. -tom)
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To: yoe

If I recall correctly, the last leader to try and mellow out Muslim Egypt reached out the olive branch to Israel and took multiple bullets at his assassination.


14 posted on 01/02/2015 3:56:53 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (quod est Latine morositate)
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To: Boogieman
There is only ONE solution for the situation....

think about it...

pray about it...

15 posted on 01/02/2015 4:15:37 PM PST by ptsal (Repubicans swallowing more kool-aide from Rove & Kristol)
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To: Boogieman

BTTT!


16 posted on 01/02/2015 4:47:30 PM PST by Pagey (HELL is The 2nd Term of a POTUS who uses the terms “social justice” and “fair distribution".)
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To: yoe

Wow, some sanity from a prominent guy. Good to see.


17 posted on 01/02/2015 4:52:46 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: Pearls Before Swine

“Is he the new Ataturk? I hope so. We need one.”

Almost... WE don’t need one. THEY need one. We don’t need anything associated with islam...


18 posted on 01/02/2015 5:08:30 PM PST by LaRueLaDue
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To: yoe

“”in connection to Prophet Muhammad’s upcoming birthday,””

Is this a holiday for them? If it is, we need to voice our displeasure and how offended we are.


19 posted on 01/02/2015 5:26:14 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Louis Foxwell

I wonder that too if Islam can have a reformation but for the benefit of the doubt, Sisi is right on about it. If Islam wants to survive and join the world community, then it has to reform. BTW, I work at a department store and I had a couple of customers from Egypt and they are very grateful Sisi kicked out the Moslem Brotherhood, FWIW.


20 posted on 01/02/2015 5:35:28 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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