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O'Reilly: Christianity's Decline In America Could Lead To Collapse Like Roman Empire
Breitbart.com ^ | May 13,2015 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 05/13/2015 7:17:17 AM PDT by Biggirl

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To: odawg
"The Republicans who campaigned against present immigration policies won."

We don't have an immigration policy, we have an open border and a public relations policy to to shield Congress from the consequences of not protecting and defending our borders.

Meanwhile, we still have hundreds of bases and tens of thousands of our troops overseas which means protecting overseas investments is what puts the butter on a Congress critters bread..

JMHo

41 posted on 05/13/2015 8:35:54 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Digger

maybe we’re being too harsh on Ted...maybe he’s a “rear view mirror” visionary.


42 posted on 05/13/2015 8:37:09 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: Biggirl

O’Reilly needs to pay some close attention to his own skewed version of Christianity and set himself right. It’s hard to believe the nonsense he spews as a “cradle Catholic”/ “cultural Christian”.


43 posted on 05/13/2015 8:52:57 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (The "legacy of slavery" is not an excuse for inexcusable behavior. --Thomas Sowell)
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To: longfellow

“He didn’t see the last democrat convention when they voted against God?”

I was honestly shocked by that, even though I shouldn’t have been. I consider that public rejection of God at a political convention as a defining moment in the downfall of our country - it signals what is wrong with this country.


44 posted on 05/13/2015 8:59:59 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Biggirl

If BOR’s numbers in the talking points were accurate they show that Muslims have more than doubled in this country since 2007.

I am surprised Mr. “Looking out for you” didn’t mention it.


45 posted on 05/13/2015 9:02:31 AM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: Poison Pill

“Maybe Christianity doesn’t have anything to do with it one way or the other?”

Oh, but it does. A moral people that can manage their own lives well are more likely to make good judgements regarding self-government. Half the people in this country don’t seem to know Right from Wrong and are therefore blind to the flaws of leaders they elect. I recall hearing that “character does not matter” during the Bill Clinton campaign, to which I thought, “Like hell it doesn’t”.


46 posted on 05/13/2015 9:07:32 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: TexasRepublic
Oh, but it does. A moral people that can manage their own lives well are more likely to make good judgements regarding self-government.

If the Christian moral system is superior, then why didn't it reverse the government corruption in the Roman system? Why did Rome's decay spread and intensify as Christianity ascended?

47 posted on 05/13/2015 9:18:39 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: cuban leaf

The South is still the most openly Christian part of the country, which is why the liberal elites love to make fun of Southerners.


48 posted on 05/13/2015 9:33:50 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: cuban leaf
I don’t know if this is a decline in Christians or a decline in those claiming to be. I now live in the south and there are a LOT of folks here who say they are Christian but don’t have a clue what it actually means.

We have just been discussing this at our small church. The steep decline is in Bible literacy and participation in Bible-based education among laypersons, hand-in-hand with the "progressive" attacks on apostolic theology in the seminaries since the 60s.

The Bible was the only book in most households in frontier times, and in the early 1800s, schoolchildren in Washington, DC learned to read from the Bible and Watt's hymnal. Up until WW2 many adults attended Sunday School as well as worship services, and many churches had hours-long services with long sermons on Sunday mornings plus another service on Sunday evenings, as well as mid-week dinners or fellowship. Most civic organizations prior to the 60s opened and closed every meeting with prayer, and every public school opened the morning with prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance. Even television programming in the 40s and 50s contained many Christian-themed shows, references to religious practices in family and community, especially hymnsinging shows on Sundays (when no raunchy or crime-oriented programming was permitted, unlike today) and holiday specials at Easter and Christmas.

Bible literacy has plummeted since the great "youth rebellion" and the rise of civil rights lawsuits by non-Christians and atheists since the 60s. Many parents of the so-called "greatest generation" were only cultural Christians, did not follow the example of their parents, did not attend Bible classes, did not read the Bible with their children or pray with them, and fell prey to the rise of consumerism after the crisis of the Depression and WW2 in their childhood and youth. And since the 60s' "youth rebellion", it has been uncool to remain Christian after high school, in no small part due to the rise of college education, which has become openly hostile to religion, and the rise of pop culture and social media in place of family- and religion-based social learning.

At this point, our small church is struggling with how to teach Bible classes and how to address the wide range of Biblical literacy in the congregation, with the core handful of people who do know the scriptures well being the only ones who attend Bible class, and those who do not know the Bible wanting to avoid Bible classes so they will not have to face the conviction of sin. Many these days want the "Church of Nice" — church being a cheaper way to belong to a private club than having to pay dues to someplace with a golf course. They really don't want to hear that abortion, birth control, unmarried sex, homosexuality and consumer materialism are sinful. Many churches, like ours, have Sunday School teachers for children who are also public school teachers and as such are probably Obama voters and union members infected with marxist indoctrination, even though the catechism of our church is traditionally apostolic. God only knows what they are actually teaching the children if the kids have questions beyond the printed lessons.

49 posted on 05/13/2015 9:35:36 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (The "legacy of slavery" is not an excuse for inexcusable behavior. --Thomas Sowell)
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To: Poison Pill

“If the Christian moral system is superior, then why didn’t it reverse the government corruption in the Roman system? Why did Rome’s decay spread and intensify as Christianity ascended?”

I suspect the causes of Rome’s downfall were too numerous and complex to be answered by a few words that would satisfy you. Read Gibbon’s massive work if you want answers. Perhaps the Christian influence was too little too late to reverse the advanced decay of an empire surrounded by enemies. Some have suggested that Christianity took “the fight” out of a brutal Roman civilization, leaving them more vulnerable to external aggression.


50 posted on 05/13/2015 9:55:17 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: TexasRepublic

But then again, did Rome really fall, in a culturally sense. Yes the political system fell, but culturally Rome lived on. The barbarians we picture as animal skin wearing brutes, but in reality they were people who fully embraced Roman culture. So if the Goths, Vandals, etc considered themselves part of Roman culture, did Rome really fall.


51 posted on 05/13/2015 10:29:17 AM PDT by gusty
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To: Biggirl
The main reason Christianity is on the decline is poor leadership and corruption within the Catholic Church.

In addition,the libtard mass media, educational institutions, and activist judges have poisoned the hearts and minds with the toxic secularist orthodoxy of feminism, abortion, multiculturalism, cultural equivalency,diversity training, sensitivity training,gay liberation, polymorphous sexualities,lifestyle liberation,and anti Christianity.

52 posted on 05/13/2015 10:44:11 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Rome fell as Christianity ascended in Europe.

Exactly. And Gibbon asserted that the rise was one of the causes of Rome's fall (although that claim is disputed).

53 posted on 05/13/2015 11:22:33 AM PDT by matt1234
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To: Biggirl

Bill has a platform wherein he could speak to the need for repentance.

He should use it.


54 posted on 05/13/2015 12:12:39 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Biggirl
Christianity is waning in the West, but booming in China and Africa. Christianity has waxed and waned around the world for 2000 years.

We are a relatively young country, and Americans tend to take a short view of history.

The long-term threat (thnk centuries) to Christianity is Islam. Hindus are also difficult to evangelize, but at least they're not expansionist and militant.

55 posted on 05/13/2015 12:19:38 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Biggirl
the decline started 30 years ago, with advent of legal abortion, the continued sexual decay....

The Muslims are gathering at door, our males are withering in impotency and feminization....give it 10 years at the most....

56 posted on 05/13/2015 3:31:51 PM PDT by B212
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To: Biggirl

A”ccording to a Pew Research study of 35,000 American adults Christianity is on the decline. 2007: 78.4 percent of Americans describe themselves as Christian. Last year 2014 that number drops to it 70.6 percent.”

I just shake my head my head when I read this. If even only 70.6 percent of Americans were actually Christians,we wouldn’t have the raunchy network TV and movies we have, the violence, the explosion in drugs, etc.

My guess is about 20 to thirty percent of Americans are actually believing and practicing Christians. This includes both Catholics and Protestants.


57 posted on 05/13/2015 5:01:39 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: gusty

Actually, the Romans “moved” to what is now Turkey—the Byzantine Roman Empire centered on Constantinople, and kept on going for quite a while longer, although of course you could say at that point they were more Greek than Roman.


58 posted on 05/13/2015 5:04:20 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Biggirl

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”- John Adams.

Our form of government was predicated upon a population that largely is made up of people ascribing to Judeo-Christian beliefs. When those go away, our form of government will be untenable.


59 posted on 05/13/2015 7:34:40 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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