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But now that Red China is moving in and the Philippines' economy is in shambles, they want us back.

Too bad.

1 posted on 05/19/2015 10:15:43 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

After what Corazon Aquino and the F*CKED UP Philippine “Senate” did to the US Navy in the early 1990s I SAY “Screw You”!


2 posted on 05/19/2015 10:18:46 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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Sometimes, people should be careful what they ask for.

Sorry, Philippines, we don't have any Navy to send you anymore. Our Dear Leader threw it away.

3 posted on 05/19/2015 10:19:54 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Timber Rattler

Their economy is better than some US states.
And dropping the bases for fifteen years saved us money at the time.

I would support a return because we were never that resented, and their remains a whole lot of intermarriage between Americans and Pilipinos.

And then there are still some of the men Harry Truman betrayed there.


6 posted on 05/19/2015 10:21:53 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Timber Rattler

How much are they willing to pay for our services this time?


7 posted on 05/19/2015 10:22:16 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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The one thing I remember about reading in the Stars and Stripes back when we closed Subic down was how they were angry about us taking our floating dry docks to Sasebo (I believe). For those that were there, if you recall there were those big floating drydocks. How many billions of dollars did the American taxpayers pay for those and they were upset we weren’t leaving them when we pulled out? That was hutzpah!


11 posted on 05/19/2015 10:31:32 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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"Son, you're on your own."

13 posted on 05/19/2015 10:33:08 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Timber Rattler

One should always be careful that for which one wishes. The communist element in the Philippines wanted the USA out of Subic Bay, period. Tough cookies! Buzz off! You reap what you sow! ;-)


18 posted on 05/19/2015 10:36:59 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Why does every totalitarian, political hack think that he knows h to run my life better than I do?)
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To: Timber Rattler
They wanted us out, so we left.

Now they are crying wolf

21 posted on 05/19/2015 10:38:57 AM PDT by TYVets
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""We thought it was a stab in the back by China, taking advantage of our loss of the security umbrella provided by the United States," Rafael Alunan, a former interior secretary, told a group of visiting journalists on Monday."

Well what in blazes did you think was going to happen? What do you think a "security umbrella" is?

22 posted on 05/19/2015 10:39:02 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Save Western Civilization. Embrace the new Crusades.)
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Screw ‘em. I say we barter for Cam Ranh Bay


23 posted on 05/19/2015 10:39:52 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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"We thought it was a stab in the back by China, taking advantage of our loss of the security umbrella provided by the United States," Rafael Alunan, a former interior secretary, told a group of visiting journalists on Monday.

Well there liberal moron, what did you expect from communists? Honesty?

25 posted on 05/19/2015 10:40:15 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Timber Rattler

Why too bad?

Are you against going back?


28 posted on 05/19/2015 10:56:34 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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Oh, no. My, no. I was there in the 70's and 80's and heard every insult and calumny possible in the papers covering the Filipino Senate debates. Was very disappointed in some politicians I though were our friends.

We had real Filipino friends, many of whom knew what would happen when the fleet left. Their Manila bosses told them they'd service the Chinese commercial fleets with the gear we left them. The Chinese wouldn't pay them what the U.S. did, and why should they, with Chinese shipworkers making a couple bucks a day tops? End of story.

Clark's pretty much done for, but we had nothing to do with it, Pinatubo did. The infrastructure elsewhere constructed over decades has been systematically looted right down to the copper wires. There just isn't all that much to come back to.

It was, as might be expected, a lot of politicians in Manila with red t-shirts and loud mouths and radical chic that ended the relationship. As usual, they let other people pay the price of their vainglory and vanity. They're still around. Let them police their own damn region.

33 posted on 05/19/2015 12:01:56 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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If the Philippines had had some real visionary, and yet strong leader, like South Korea had sometimes, the occasion of the U.S. departure would have been grasped as an opportunity for industrialization, like in ship building; with Subic one of the largest deep water ports in Asia, and with the tons of available skilled ship maintenance and repair labor after years of keeping-up the U.S. 7th fleet at its Subic facilities.

But no; Philippine politicians and business leaders mismanaged Subic’s potential and as a result the role of shipbuilding in the Philippines (which IS growing) is now led by Hanjin of Korea and others from Japan. Shipbuilding in the Philippines is now ahead of Europe, but its leaders are foreign based.


35 posted on 05/19/2015 12:33:36 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Hot Tabasco

I still say Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 was either accidentally or purposely shot down by Chinese fighter jets........


37 posted on 05/19/2015 12:46:12 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (November 2016 shall be set aside as rodent removal month.)
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Too bad.

Never thought I'd hear support for the communist Chinese on this website......

There has been a long standing dispute in the South China Sea over the Spratley Islands between China and the independent nations of Brunei, Taiwan, Malaysia, the Philipines and Vietnam.

China wants total control over that area due to the vast oil reserves and abundant food sources which would not only feed their people but make them totally self sufficient in oil production..........

You may not like the Philippines for whatever personal reason but there's a much larger picture involved and only the U.S. Navy can deter the increasing aggression of the Chinese Coast Guard in that area of the world.......

39 posted on 05/19/2015 1:17:41 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (November 2016 shall be set aside as rodent removal month.)
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To: Timber Rattler

had a great time in olongapo back in the mid 70’s but when they kicked us out I knew they were making a huge mistake.

We no longer need Subic Bay or any presence in the Phillipines so screw them.


44 posted on 05/19/2015 2:36:08 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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