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To: econjack
I have never understood why anyone would not want to be affiliated with a political party, and therefore disenfranchising himself of having any voice whatsoever, however small, in an extremely important part of the political process. Unless, I suppose, you live in an open primary state. By not belonging to a political party, you have no say whatsoever in who is nominated, thereby giving even control over the nomination process to the party hacks and insiders. By being independent you make the problem even worse. Stop kidding yourself, it is not noble to be an independent, in fact it is disgraceful and wicked. You are not morally superior, indeed you committing a crime against your fellow Americans who doing what they can to wrest control of our political parties away from the elites and return it to the people. Do your civic duty, be responsible, and stop committing this sin against American freedom, and join the political party of your choice, and then start doing what you can to free the process, and return control to the people. Fighting the power structure at the top starts at the bottom. I don't know your circumstances of course, but you may be in a good position to really get involved and change things at the local level. Even if you are not free to do much at this point in your life, there is still probably a little that you can do. If you have done what you can, then you are free to criticize and complain, if you have just decided to do nothing, which it appears you have, then you deserve the candidates you get. Sorry for the strong words, but I hope I have given you something to think about. And, I do need to add the caveat that I did not vote for Romney. As a Christian, I simply could not do so, and I realized I could not when I heard Michelle Bachmann state that Mormons are Christians. But I was very engaged in the process, in fact I was both county and then a state delegate, supporting Newt Gingrich (who won our caucus by the way, after a few of us were able to convince that Mormon majority wearing Romney stickers that Mr. Newt and Rick Santorum were far better candidates.) If not for the sudden development of a life-threatening health problem I would have tried to go to the national convention as a delegate to do what I could there. Each and every one of us needs to get involved with our political parties and do whatever we can, it is an important step in trying to change the awful situation we are in.
26 posted on 08/28/2015 8:34:38 AM PDT by erkelly
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To: erkelly
have never understood why anyone would not want to be affiliated with a political party, and therefore disenfranchising himself of having any voice whatsoever, however small, in an extremely important part of the political process. Unless, I suppose, you live in an open primary state. By not belonging to a political party, you have no say whatsoever in who is nominated, thereby giving even control over the nomination process to the party hacks and insiders.

By being independent you make the problem even worse. Stop kidding yourself, it is not noble to be an independent, in fact it is disgraceful and wicked. You are not morally superior, indeed you committing a crime against your fellow Americans who doing what they can to wrest control of our political parties away from the elites and return it to the people. Do your civic duty, be responsible, and stop committing this sin against American freedom, and join the political party of your choice, and then start doing what you can to free the process, and return control to the people. Fighting the power structure at the top starts at the bottom.

I don't know your circumstances of course, but you may be in a good position to really get involved and change things at the local level. Even if you are not free to do much at this point in your life, there is still probably a little that you can do. If you have done what you can, then you are free to criticize and complain, if you have just decided to do nothing, which it appears you have, then you deserve the candidates you get.

Sorry for the strong words, but I hope I have given you something to think about. And, I do need to add the caveat that I did not vote for Romney. As a Christian, I simply could not do so, and I realized I could not when I heard Michelle Bachmann state that Mormons are Christians.

But I was very engaged in the process, in fact I was both county and then a state delegate, supporting Newt Gingrich (who won our caucus by the way, after a few of us were able to convince that Mormon majority wearing Romney stickers that Mr. Newt and Rick Santorum were far better candidates.)

If not for the sudden development of a life-threatening health problem I would have tried to go to the national convention as a delegate to do what I could there. Each and every one of us needs to get involved with our political parties and do whatever we can, it is an important step in trying to change the awful situation we are in.

#8206;AM by erkell ...)

perhaps it is easier to read.

27 posted on 08/28/2015 8:50:32 AM PDT by geologist
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To: erkelly

Paragraphs are your friends.


28 posted on 08/28/2015 8:58:10 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: erkelly
I can declare any party I wish and vote in the primary. What I do in a primary is not binding. You have your way of doing things, I have mine and yours is, in no way, superior to mine. I do not have to belong to a political party to vote. Right now, I am very displeased with the GOP and until I see changes made that I like, they will not get my support. I will vote, but whom I vote for depends upon the alternatives. The current GOP does not show any evidence of changing their ways despite pressure from conservatives. As to your statement: stop committing this sin against American freedom, I could say the GOP is a much bigger sinner than I am. You overstate your case with such non-sequiturs.
36 posted on 08/28/2015 10:41:12 AM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: erkelly
Sorry for the strong words

But I was very engaged in the process…

No apologies necessary, erkelly. Good point. Thanks for being involved.

43 posted on 08/28/2015 5:44:02 PM PDT by PGalt
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