[MUDDOG]

I’ll never forget Lake Van. The defeat of the Byzantines by the Turks in 1071 AD. One of history’s great turning points (if there is such a thing).

[colorado tanker]

The Battle of Manzikert was one of the decisive battles in history. The Byzantines lost their Anatolian heartland and never really recovered from its loss. The Empire lingered for centuries, but was never again the power it once was.

It's interesting to speculate what would have happened had the Turks been denied Anatolia and, later, Byzantium?