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Fears of failure grow for rods on Bay Bridge eastern span
SFGate.com ^ | Oct. 25, 2015 | Jaxon Van Derbeken

Posted on 10/25/2015 12:01:20 PM PDT by Leaning Right

New documents raise questions about the integrity of the steel rods that hold together the Bay Bridge eastern span and point to potentially widespread problems that experts warn could lead to premature failure.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; US: California
KEYWORDS: bayarea; baybridge; bridge; california; earthquake; earthquakes; failure; oakland; rods; rondellums; sanfrancisco
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To: Hugin

But the liberal fixation with passenger trains is very strange indeed.

Not strange at all if you understand the goal of The Wildlands Project.

Expunge the people from the rural areas, concentrate the population in the Sustainable Communities surrounded by Urban Growth Boundries.

High speed rail will connect the Regions and speed contestants on to The Hunger Games.

It’s all planned out in Agenda 21. I thought everyone was familar with what is planned for them and has actually been ongoing implementation since 1994.


101 posted on 10/25/2015 3:25:37 PM PDT by Captain7seas
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To: stylin_geek

the recent screw-up by the EPA in the Gold King Mine
Add it to the list.Definitely


102 posted on 10/25/2015 3:30:30 PM PDT by Recompennation
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To: Jeff Chandler; Lazamataz
Name him/Ping him rules are in effect. Don't be a Commie. Hehe.
103 posted on 10/25/2015 3:37:40 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: PAR35

I know.


104 posted on 10/25/2015 3:41:08 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: jimt
Their stuff has been crap for at least 20 years.

Alla oua junk berong to YOU, sucka!

106 posted on 10/25/2015 3:51:38 PM PDT by stboz
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Winner! Learned that 40 years ago in Materials 101.


107 posted on 10/25/2015 4:03:31 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ ("It gets late early around here..." Yogi)
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To: wetgundog

Better call out the ferries. Having traveled a lot in British Columbia, I was amazed how frequently the road just stops and there’s a ferry. It’s kind of fun, but I was surprised. The same is true in the Yukon. I took a ferry to get from Top of the World Highway and across the Yukon River to Dawson City. That is how I meant it really — enough of the red letter warnings.


108 posted on 10/25/2015 4:10:47 PM PDT by TiaS
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To: Leaning Right

This wouldn’t happen to be the bridge built by the Chineeeeeze now would it?


109 posted on 10/25/2015 4:37:42 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom
This wouldn’t happen to be the bridge built by the Chineeeeeze now would it?

It is. The Chinese are actually building the bridge in China, in large pieces. Then the Chinese ship those pieces over here, where they are connected together.

At least that's my understanding of the situation, based on the NY Times article I referenced in post #1.

And I can imagine what the Chinese quality control is like: Make sure everything holds up, at least until the last check clears.

110 posted on 10/25/2015 4:46:01 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Leaning Right

Yes, I remember. Are there no civil engineering firms left in the U.S.A.? And who will be held accountable for the disaster when it occurs?


111 posted on 10/25/2015 4:55:09 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Leaning Right
At least that's my understanding of the situation, based on the NY Times article I referenced in post #1.

If only you had read the article you posted. That's some mighty fine Chinese work you did there.

112 posted on 10/25/2015 5:00:31 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
If only you had read the article you posted. That's some mighty fine Chinese work you did there.

At first I couldn't quite understand your meaning here. But now I've got it. You are correct in that the NY Times article is pro-Chinese. I read it all. The California officials gushed over how great the Chinese bridge was, and how inexpensive it was.

I posted that article to give anyone interested the details on why the Chinese were chosen, and how the bridge was being built. Those details were largely missing from the main article I posted.

In no way did I mean to suggest that going the Chinese route was a good idea. In fact, it's obviously a terrible idea. I thought that was clear from the main article I posted: The support rods are inferior, and will fail long before they are supposed to.

113 posted on 10/25/2015 5:11:43 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Leaning Right

And they were made in Alabama. From the article you posted. Jeepers.


114 posted on 10/25/2015 5:15:44 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

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Its not just an engineering failure, it is broad-based fraud.

The recent “testing” of the rods was total fraud.

Also much of the concrete in the foundation failed compression tests long after it was buried.

That bridge is going to be a disaster when a big quake comes.
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115 posted on 10/25/2015 5:19:06 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

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There was an “unsuitable material” issue when the revetments were being rebuilt during the Clinton regime, and they refused authorization to sub-excavate, so everything was built on crap.


116 posted on 10/25/2015 5:27:08 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Leaning Right

What do you expect of the New York Times now that it’s biggest share holder, 16.8% and rising, is none other than Lebanese-Mexican Billionaire, Carlos Slim of Obama-Tracfone fame. Does this mean that paper is still covered under the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. Personally, I put that in the same category as same-sex marriage — it’s incomprehensible. Take it to the Supreme Court . . . .


117 posted on 10/25/2015 5:34:56 PM PDT by TiaS
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Much of the New Orleans flooding by Katrina resulted from the storm surge coming from Lake Ponchartrian on the outflow canals and overwhelming the levies. There were no flood gates on the lake end of the outflow canals and the lake was essentially an infinite source once the outflow canal wall had been breached.


118 posted on 10/25/2015 5:42:05 PM PDT by Western Phil
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To: editor-surveyor

...and the SOLE reason for building it was the old bridge was unsafe in earthquakes! That and the politicians are addicted to spending our money to build monuments to themselves.


119 posted on 10/25/2015 5:46:42 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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To: mumblypeg

I can say that the Cypress Structure lower deck moved a lot, responding to traffic loads moving along the upper deck. Was caught in a traffic jam and observed a seat-of-pants surging sensation as of riding a boat through light chop. Lots of looking about at the time wondering what was going on.

As it turned out, investigations after the earthquake revealed the re-bar between other structural elements and support pylons weren’t welded together properly. The concrete pour was the only thing constraining movement at the joins.


120 posted on 10/25/2015 7:29:31 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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