New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo rejects proposed gas terminal off coast

Fuel Fix ^ | November 12, 2015 | Associated Press

[thackney]

Gov. Andrew Cuomo has rejected a proposal to build a liquefied natural gas terminal in the waters off New York and New Jersey, effectively killing the project amid an outcry from residents of some coastal communities that it could endanger the environment and be a target for terrorists.

The deep-water docking station known as Port Ambrose was to be built 19 miles off Jones Beach on Long Island and 29 miles off Long Brach, New Jersey. Liberty Natural Gas LLC, the company vying to develop Port Ambrose, said the port would allow it to inject natural gas into the New York-area pipeline, which could lower home heating bills there, among the most expensive in the nation.

The company had been trying for years to obtain approval from the federal Maritime Administration to operate the facility. But federal regulations require the governors of the neighboring states -- New York and New Jersey -- to approve the project. According to the regulations, either governor could object to the proposal, forcing the agency to deny Liberty's application.

"My administration carefully reviewed this project from all angles, and we have determined that the security and economic risks far outweigh any potential benefits," Cuomo said in a statement. "Superstorm Sandy taught us how quickly things can go from bad to worse when major infrastructure fails - and the potential for disaster with this project during extreme weather or amid other security risks is simply unacceptable."

[thackney]

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[RJS1950]

Then let the nitwits freeze over the winter.

[thackney]

Gov. Andrew Cuomo has rejected a proposal to build a liquefied natural gas terminal in the waters off New York and New Jersey, effectively killing the project amid an outcry from residents of some coastal communities that it could endanger the environment and be a target for terrorists.

The deep-water docking station known as Port Ambrose was to be built 19 miles off Jones Beach on Long Island and 29 miles off Long Brach, New Jersey. Liberty Natural Gas LLC, the company vying to develop Port Ambrose, said the port would allow it to inject natural gas into the New York-area pipeline, which could lower home heating bills there, among the most expensive in the nation.

The company had been trying for years to obtain approval from the federal Maritime Administration to operate the facility. But federal regulations require the governors of the neighboring states — New York and New Jersey — to approve the project. According to the regulations, either governor could object to the proposal, forcing the agency to deny Liberty's application.

“My administration carefully reviewed this project from all angles, and we have determined that the security and economic risks far outweigh any potential benefits,” Cuomo said in a statement. “Superstorm Sandy taught us how quickly things can go from bad to worse when major infrastructure fails - and the potential for disaster with this project during extreme weather or amid other security risks is simply unacceptable.”

http://portambrose.com/project-description/

[thackney]

Sorry, duplicated texted above

Port Ambrose is designed to provide the necessary infrastructure to safely deliver additional, diverse supplies of natural gas directly into the growing markets in the downstate, New York City and Long Island areas to help meet existing and future load requirements, particularly during periods of peak winter and summer demand.

How it Works

Port Ambrose is a deepwater port consisting of a submerged buoy system for natural gas deliveries that will be located in federal waters approximately 19 miles from the New York shore.

Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) supplies will arrive at Port Ambrose via specially designed Shuttle & Regasification Vessels (SRVs). Once the SRV is connected to the submerged buoy system, the LNG will be re-gasified on board and natural gas will be transferred into a new twenty-two mile subsea pipeline that will connect offshore into the existing Transco Lower New York Bay Lateral pipeline serving Long Island and New York City.

[rktman]

Yeah, screw a bunch of potentially decent paying jobs. This assclown gets stupider and stupider by the hour. Meanwhile warren buffet’s choo choo’s keep chugging along full of oil. And we all know choo choo’s are much safer than evil piplines.

[butlerweave]

Put it to a Vote , stop being a Dictator

[rrrod]

any chance we could sell off NY and NJ? Maybe build a fence around them?

[Darksheare]

*ugh*
It would have been far enough out that an attack on it wouldn’t honestly do much to anyone other than the station residents.
And say goodbye to every job it would have created from securing the terminal to maintenance operarations, to inspections, taxation, etc etc etc..
That’s lost revenue into the billions.
All because little Sfachim is an idiot.

[PAR35]

a target for terrorists.

If terrorists blew it up at night, it would probably be visible from shore, but it certainly wouldn't impact anything on land. Put in a couple of one way valves on the pipeline itself, and it would probably burn out in just a few minutes.

[NormsRevenge]

as our nation shivers under the rule of cold hearted greens.., the terrorists have won again.

[EQAndyBuzz]

I used to fish out by the Ambrose lighthouse. Great fishing.

[catnipman]

Yep, it’s far more important to build a a gazillion dollar wall to “protect” NY from an ocean rise that could take a few thousand years to materialize (if ever) than provide 20 million people with electricity and heating for their homes and businesses.

[glorgau]

Perfect spot for a wind farm!

[RicocheT]

Cuomo and the anti-CO2 greenies are nuts. The North East US heats with fuel oil and electricity from mostly coal fired plants as natural gas service is limited due to lack of pipeline from the Mid West & beyond to bring in the gas.

Cuomo has already said no to gas drilling in NY State shale deposits and now no to this gas terminal which would have brought more natural gas to NY & NJ. If greenies want less CO2, natural gas puts out less than burning fuel oil & coal.

[thackney]

LNG won’t even ignite, let alone explode.

First it has to be warmed up to a vapor. Then it has to be diluted down to 5~15% concentration with air. It is significantly slighter than air, so it rises up away from the ground.

Natural Gas contained inside a building already filled with air can be explosive. But tanks containing LNG, or vaporized Natural Gas have to first be mixed with a lot of air.

[thackney]

See post #15. LNG won’t even ignite.

[zeugma]

Then let the nitwits freeze over the winter.

Beat me to it.

Any state that doesn't allow infrastructure like this should feel the pain economically.

[Darksheare]

I know.
But the powers what are would put it on a list of things to guard.
Which would mean jobs of one kind or another.

[thackney]

Why do I suspect it more likely would be attacked by eco-terrorist than any others?

[PAR35]

“LNG won’t even ignite, let alone explode.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI0QWm4TxZU

http://business.financialpost.com/news/energy/blast-at-u-s-lng-site-casts-spotlight-on-natural-gas-safety

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_East_Ohio_Gas_explosion