Trump won't rule out database, special ID for Muslims in US

The Hill ^ | 11/19/2015 | Mark Hensch

[GIdget2004]

GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump believes that the war on terror will require unprecedented surveillance of America’s Muslims.

“We’re going to have to do thing that we never did before,” he said during a Yahoo interview. “Some people are going to be upset about it, but I think that now everybody is feeling that security is going to rule,” Trump said.

“Certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country in terms of information and learning about the enemy,” he added. “We’re going to have to do things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago.”

Trump would not rule out warrantless searches in his plans for increased surveillance of the nation’s Muslims, Yahoo reported Thursday.

He also remained open toward registering U.S. Muslims in a database or giving them special identification identifying their faith, the news outlet added.

“We’re going to have to look at a lot of things very closely,” Trump said. “We’re going to have to look at the mosques. We’re going to have to look very, very carefully.”

Trump additionally floated former New York Police Department Commissioner Ray Kelly for a position in his potential presidential administration.

“Ray’s a great guy,” he said of the former NYPD chief. “Ray did a fab job as commissioner, and sure, Ray would be somebody I’d certainly consider.”

[LS]

One minor correction: the Japanese camps were not really "concentration" camps so much as "relocation" camps, that were temporary until the FBI could vet them. They had bands and orchestras, newspapers, their own stores, gardens, etc. It was virtually the same life as they had outside, with, of course, that they were confined.

Many lost their businesses, their property, but I'm convinced by the documents in Michelle Malkin's book that the CALIFORNIA based Japanese had enough spies in their number that you had to move them out. Germans and Italians who were arrested/confined were only mainstream card-carrying fascists/Bund members to my knowledge. I welcome different information, but I don't think any "ordinary" Germans or Italians were rounded up.

[Buckeye McFrog]

Get ready for the hysterical “Nazi Yellow Star of David” comparisons in the media.

[itsahoot]

All aliens used to have to register.

Now they just register to vote.

[itsahoot]

A tracking database of Muslims here is the US is ridiculous.

But it ok to have Christians and Veterans be on a terrorist watch list.

[dfwgator]

The fact that anyone would consider a “Tracking Database” means that they shouldn’t be here in the first place.

[itsahoot]

Get ready for the hysterical “Nazi Yellow Star of David” comparisons in the media.

Media? How about right here?

[CatherineofAragon]

"Now, if you are OK with the Democrats taking these ideas of Donald's and using them against Christians, or even conservatives, then you should be OK with Donald's ideas here.

On this alone, Donald is the wrong guy for POTUS."

Precisely.

Yet his supporters don't think, don't question it. They just cheer it and believe that the magical Trump can get it done.

[ForYourChildren]

FBI Has Nearly 1,000 Active ISIS Probes Inside U.S.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3359940/posts

[sarge83]

I agree, deport and stop current immigration of these nutjobs. I can see where the left would use the ID’s tactic on Christians, Jews and conservatives in the future. I would be wary of this tactic.

[Scirparius]

I love Trump, but allowing the federal government to use its police powers against citizens of the United States based solely on their religion is utterly unconscionable.

It is worse than using the authority of the IRS to target and cripple specific organizations because of their political leanings. It is little different than requiring business owners to provide services that violate their personal religious convictions.

Freedom of religion is a fundamental and intrinsic right granted to us by our Creator, and any government action that impairs that right is an anathema to our Constitution.

[dem bums]

We're going to have to do things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago.

I would like to hear Trump explain exactly what "frankly unthinkable" things he is talking about. Because, without explanation, those are pretty terrifying words coming from a Presidential candidate in a constitutional republic like ours.

[DoodleDawg]

Get ready for the hysterical "Nazi Yellow Star of David" comparisons in the media.

They'd be valid.

[DoodleDawg]

One minor correction: the Japanese camps were not really "concentration" camps so much as "relocation" camps, that were temporary until the FBI could vet them. They had bands and orchestras, newspapers, their own stores, gardens, etc. It was virtually the same life as they had outside, with, of course, that they were confined.

Yeah if it wasn't for the barbed wire and guard towers you might think they were at Club Med. </sarcasm>

[LS]

I know, I know. But No one was killed there, no one was tortured there, so a comparison to German camps is not in line. It is closer to the camps set up by the Brits for the Boer families in the Boer War that were designed to lure the Boers out into the open.

[Chgogal]

Yup, I'm against this but I'm also against any Muslim who puts Sharia Law above Constitutional Law.

[DoodleDawg]

But No one was killed there, no one was tortured there, so a comparison to German camps is not in line.

But people were locked up there without trial, without evidence, based solely on who they were. That is not a time this country should be proud of and not something we should be looking to do again. Regardless of the target.

It is closer to the camps set up by the Brits for the Boer families in the Boer War that were designed to lure the Boers out into the open.

Well, no. The internment camps were strictly punitive and were not meant to promote any sort of action from the enemy. Most of the people there weren't even Japanese citizens.

[LS]

No, you need to read Michelle Malkin's book "In Defense of Internment." She has actual photocopy documents from the FBI from Japanese spies IN CALIFORNIA and these were just a tiny fraction of what they were collecting. Of course they weren't Japanese citizens---but neither were the spies.

The Japanese had photos of EVERY SHIP in Pearl Harbor sent by US citizens who were spying for Japan in Hawaii. There was a very serious, expected threat of Japanese invasion in 1942. A Japanese sub shelled Oregon. I went to school in classrooms at UC Santa Barbara that were pillboxes with cannons facing the sea in 1942. All aircraft factories in CA were fully camouflaged due to expected bombing. Lights were turned off of all skyscrapers in LA and SF at night. On and on. Yes, while in retrospect we now know they couldn't invade, at the time NOBODY knew that. Already the Japanese had done what no one thought they could do: conquer all SE Asia, invade a part of Australia, destroy the whole US battleship squadron, destroy two carriers and damage a third, all at the loss of ONE DESTROYER.

It's wartime. FDR was absolutely right.

[madison10]

As someone stated this would be a slippery slope. If it were democrats demanding the same of Christians because they did not agree with some homo agenda we’d feel differently.

[TroutFishingInAmerica]

I don’t see how this passes the First Amendment ban on laws “respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”

[John W]

It’s a smear. He didn’t rule out anything in that initial interview.