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Another gun ban, another bad outcome: Venezuela homicide rate rose after gun ban
Crime Prevention Research Center ^ | April 12, 2016 | Crime Prevention Research Center

Posted on 04/13/2016 11:16:03 AM PDT by richardb72

Private gun ownership was banned in Venezuela in June 2012, but their homicide rate went from 73 per 100,000 people in 2012 to 82 per 100,000 people in 2015. The BBC seriously repeats the Venezuelan government’s claim that the ban is an “attempt by the government to improve security and cut crime.” The ban was preceded by an amnesty to get people to turn in their guns. The video gives some idea of what life is like in Venezuela these days.

As the homicide rate was already rising before the gun ban and Venezuela is such a mess of a country, this increase in homicides is less dramatic than for the UK, Ireland or Jamaica, but yet again it is still evidence that the homicide rates were at least not favorably affected by gun ban.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Cuba; Front Page News; Government; Russia
KEYWORDS: banglist; cprc; cuba; guncontrol; hugochavezlegacy; nicaragua; nicolasmaduro; russia; venezuela

1 posted on 04/13/2016 11:16:03 AM PDT by richardb72
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Venezuela is absolutely out of control. Hotels are barricading their lobbies. Streets are deserted as dark approaches. And you can't carry a gun.

Hotels are cheap, though!

2 posted on 04/13/2016 11:20:20 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: richardb72

Oh yeah?

Well you’re a racist!


3 posted on 04/13/2016 11:22:35 AM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: Billthedrill

When a significant part of the population attaches themselves to socialist liars, it does not bode well.

I am especially reminded of 2008.


4 posted on 04/13/2016 11:23:53 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: richardb72

According to Bill Whittle, Venezuela is #2 in the world for murders! Honduras is #1. In both countries, gun ownership is illegal!

A lot of interesting data here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE


5 posted on 04/13/2016 11:24:46 AM PDT by vette6387 (Obama can go to hell!)
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To: richardb72

My wife has a friend who married a wealthy Venezuelan in the 90s. He transferred all his wealth out of the country when he saw the country going socialist.


6 posted on 04/13/2016 11:30:31 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Liberals are the Taliban of America, trying to tear down any symbol that they don't like.)
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To: richardb72

That’s unexpected. Who would have guessed that disarming law-abiding citizens would lead to more of them being killed by criminals who don’t obey gun laws?


7 posted on 04/13/2016 11:33:54 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: vette6387

Remove murders committed by blacks and Hispanics and the crime rate in the US drops MUCH more.


8 posted on 04/13/2016 11:38:21 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Liberals are the Taliban of America, trying to tear down any symbol that they don't like.)
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To: richardb72

Their gun ban is to prevent successful armed insurrection.
Our second amendment is to facilitate one.


9 posted on 04/13/2016 11:39:28 AM PDT by steve8714 (Why is Romney pushing me to Trump?)
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Yep...Guns are banned...The government feels safe...To hell with the peons....


10 posted on 04/13/2016 11:40:52 AM PDT by JBW1949
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Venezuela is intentionally using the lawless predator class to maintain political power. That’s why the disarmed the populace.


11 posted on 04/13/2016 11:42:26 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: steve8714

Excellent post!

Socialist Venezuela’s gun ban is to prevent a successful armed insurrection.
The United States second amendment is to facilitate armed insurrection against the growing socialist takeover.


12 posted on 04/13/2016 11:55:54 AM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“Remove murders committed by blacks and Hispanics and the crime rate in the US drops MUCH more.”

Yes, Whittle points out that our big cities with their large minority populations terribly skew the data on gun violence here. Some of them are as bad as Venezuela/


13 posted on 04/13/2016 12:13:13 PM PDT by vette6387 (Obama can go to hell!)
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To: Billthedrill

Gun bans are a free for all like a butcher with a compressed air hammer at a slaughter house.


14 posted on 04/13/2016 12:38:46 PM PDT by lavaroise (s)
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"...Venezuela is intentionally using the lawless predator class to maintain political power..."

You've just defined Anarcho-Tyranny.

15 posted on 04/13/2016 1:02:04 PM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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To: Pollster1

“That’s unexpected. Who would have guessed that disarming law-abiding citizens would lead to more of them being killed by criminals who don’t obey gun laws?”

Criminals in Venenzuela murder police to get their guns.

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2015/11/robbers-murder-police-to-get-their-guns.html


16 posted on 04/13/2016 2:20:46 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Billthedrill

The typical liberal response to this news would be that they need to ban guns again and pass fifty more laws against violations of the gun bans!


17 posted on 04/13/2016 2:36:59 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist.)
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To: T-Bone Texan

re “Venezuela is intentionally using the lawless predator class to maintain political power”.

YES but not Anarcho-Tyranny. More like Marxist-Tyranny using Marx’s/Lenin’s “Lumpenproletariat” to control the “Haves”.

The LPs were the “Have Nots” of Russian society including the criminal element. They were viewed as having no real stake in the existing society so they would make good “spearheads” in any communist revolution.

Lenin and his CHEKA was made up of many criminals released from the Czar’s prisons and well as former Czarist secret police. Stalin continued with this policy and used criminals in prisons to control political prisoners and religious prisoners (my friend spent 10 years in Lubianka Prison and then the Gulags along the Trans-Siberian Railway line out to Lake Baikal.

THe Nazis also used criminals in both the Gestapo and in slave labor and concentration camps to control, again, religious and political prisoners. They were just as cruel as the SS soldiers and Gestapo.

W.E.B. Du Bois, before (1930s) he became a Communist himself (1940’s or early 50’s), warned the American Negro not to become “cannonfodder” for the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). He felt that the reds only wanted to use black bodies as frontline, expendable shock troops in the coming revolution.

The Marxist/criminal Black Panther Party was built on the “criminal as revolutionary” concept. I once checked the backgrounds of BPP members arrested in DC and Maryland (in regards to the murder of Baltimore Police Office Sager, killed in a BPP ambush, possibly by BBP leader Donald Cox). Most of them were either unemployed or only partially employed. A few had full time but not high economic level jobs.

They were the true “lumpenproletariat” of the black/Marxist revolution.

The Anarcho-Tyranny of today is composed of both the Black Bloc (Anarchists) and the Red Bloc (Marxist-Anarchists, somewhat contradictory but they aim to destroy society using anarchist warfare but within a future Marxist program to power).

Most are losers, psychopaths and drug users. But they are very dangerous and have been very successful in their street warfare against businesses because the police will not take them down in any serious manner.


18 posted on 04/13/2016 6:07:24 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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