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Concealed-Carry ‘Reciprocity’ vs. Federalism
National Review ^ | June 1, 2017 | Robert Verbruggen

Posted on 06/02/2017 8:08:43 AM PDT by Mafe

I took a number of steps before I started carrying a gun. I got training, I read books and articles by self-defense experts, I learned the laws of my state, I started going to the range regularly, and I did “dry fire” exercises at home to keep my shooting skills up.

I also got a concealed-carry permit, which in Virginia required almost none of the above preparation. All I had to do was get a form notarized and send it in — along with $50 and a copy of the hunter’s-safety card I earned in Wisconsin when I was 13 years old, which allegedly proved my “competency with a handgun.” Nothing would have stopped me from getting a permit and carrying a gun legally if I hadn’t touched a firearm since 1997 and had received no training at all that pertained specifically to concealed carry or self-defense, as opposed to shooting deer in the freezing cold.

It’s perfectly fine, of course, for the state of Virginia to have lax permitting standards and trust that its residents will get the training they need of their own volition and good sense. In fact, a growing number of states don’t require a permit to carry at all — some call it “constitutional carry” — and their streets are not running red with blood.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; federalism; firearm; guns; reciprocity
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To: TBP
The right to keep and bear arms is a constitutional right, protected by the Second Amendment. And Article IV, Section 1 says that “Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State.”

Accordingly, it could be argued that no state has the right NOT to honor carry permits issued by any state.

Legislation is being written in Wyoming that will reciprocate the non-recognition of our handgun carry licenses- unneeded in the Cowboy State since 2013, but available for out-of-state use- by similarly not recognizing driver's licenses or vehicle license plates from those states which fail to recognize our Wyoming licenses- including those for handgun carry.

Additional fine-tuning of the law is underway, to include the creation of vans equipped as mobile county courtrooms so that unlicensed vehicles driven by scofflaw unlicensed drivers can be confiscated on the spot. Similarly mobile vehicle crushing equipment to prevent out-of-state criminals from becoming repeat offenders is also a part of the mix- if the feds don't act in any other meaningful way.

It should make the tourist season around Yellowstone, Devil's Tower and on the way to Mount Rushmore right entertaining.

After all, if those other places don't accept our carry licenses, they're in rebellion to the Constitution, right?

21 posted on 06/02/2017 11:34:36 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)
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To: vette6387
driving is only a privilege not a right

Not buying this one. I agree that it's OK to regulate the exercise, such as speed limits, no driving if you're blind as a bat and so on, but I think it's a right subject to responsible exercise, not a "privilege". It's that "all powers belong to the government till they dole them out" attitude that lets them tie your DL to completely unrelated stuff. Grades, child support, etc.

22 posted on 06/02/2017 12:27:24 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

“Not buying this one. “

I don’t buy it either, but it’s de facto what states are saying in their laws today. Most everything in our personal lives should not be regulated including driving a car.


23 posted on 06/02/2017 3:37:25 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: AlaskaErik

Your sanctimony should answer your own question for you, Why picture a cocked pistol laying on its side? Perhsps the photographer wanted people to see what a cocked pistol looks like. Perhaps it is a 1911 used for home defense; I have several of them and yes, they are cocked and, horrors, loaded. Perhaps your wife, if you can get one, keeps her vibrator on the nightstand with the switch exposed. Why would she do that?


24 posted on 06/02/2017 6:57:57 PM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Lion Den Dan
Your sanctimony should answer your own question for you, Why picture a cocked pistol laying on its side? Perhsps the photographer wanted people to see what a cocked pistol looks like. Perhaps it is a 1911 used for home defense; I have several of them and yes, they are cocked and, horrors, loaded. Perhaps your wife, if you can get one, keeps her vibrator on the nightstand with the switch exposed. Why would she do that?

Aren't you the little smartass. It's not a cocked and locked 1911. Most of my pistols are striker fired or DAO. My HK USP Compact 40 would be decocked after I load it, so the hammer would be in the uncocked position. Whoever positioned this pistol isn't too keen on safety. I'm retired military and retired LE, so I take firearms safety seriously. I'm also married, so no need for the snide remarks.

25 posted on 06/03/2017 2:07:50 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: AlaskaErik

Remarks are not snide and as far as you being retired military and Leo, that is good as your potential to damage society with your holier than thou-ness is much reduced. Not a 1911, so what? The principle is the same; it is what the photographer wanted to sho to illustrate the point. As far as firearms safety goes, the closest I ever came to being shot was by a retired military policeman who was active Leo who was just too smart and well trained to follow instructions.


26 posted on 06/03/2017 3:36:44 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Mafe
t’s a question courts have struggled with as well. As the law professor Ralph U. Whitten has explained, current precedent interprets the clause as requiring states to enforce one another’s laws, and the courts themselves, not Congress, get to decide the limits of this requirement

Would a lawyer explain the difference here between Full Faith and Commerce Clause and how states can refuse to enforce Federal Laws e.g. immigration? The concept appears to be the same between state and state and federal government.

27 posted on 06/03/2017 4:15:12 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: Lion Den Dan
Remarks are not snide and as far as you being retired military and Leo, that is good as your potential to damage society with your holier than thou-ness is much reduced. Not a 1911, so what? The principle is the same; it is what the photographer wanted to sho to illustrate the point. As far as firearms safety goes, the closest I ever came to being shot was by a retired military policeman who was active Leo who was just too smart and well trained to follow instructions.

My remarks do not reflect a holier than thou attitude, rather they are an observation of what I consider less-than-safe handling and display of a pistol. I actually took a picture of my HK USP Compact 40 once, but it had been decocked immediately after the slide had been released, which is the safest way for a pistol like that to be handled when not holstered. And I have no idea where you're trying to go when you mention my potential damage to society. I'm a law abiding citizen and I have nothing to do with tin foil hat types.

28 posted on 06/03/2017 10:38:35 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: archy

R U sheetin’ me?


29 posted on 06/04/2017 4:21:24 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: Tainan
R U sheetin’ me?

It won't go anywhere with our present governor Matt Mead, grandson of Governor and U.S. Senator Clifford Hansen, Mead being himself a former US Attorney and notorious government supremacist. But he's term-limited on his second term as Governor, so we'll see what happens down the road.

30 posted on 06/05/2017 10:17:04 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)
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