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Clinton-Era Memo: A Sitting President Can Be Indicted
Newsmax ^ | 22 Jul 2017 | Sandy Fitzgerald

Posted on 07/22/2017 11:12:06 AM PDT by mandaladon

A newly-obtained memo written during special counsel Kenneth Starr's investigation of President Bill Clinton rejects a commonly held view that a sitting president can't be indicted, The New York Times reported.

The discovery adds a possible new wrinkle into the investigation into Russia and President Donald Trump's campaign.

The memo has been locked away in the National Archives since 1998, but was obtained by the Times' Charlie Savage through a Freedom of Information Act request, and represents a thorough analysis of the opinion, the newspaper reported Saturday.

According to the findings, the memo concludes that "no one, even President Clinton, is above the law" and says it is "proper, constitutional, and legal for a federal grand jury to indict a sitting president for serious criminal acts that are not part of, and are contrary to, the president's official duties."

Ronald Rotunda, a prominent conservative professor of constitutional law and ethics, was assigned to write the memo when deputy prosecutors told Starr they had enough evidence to send to a grand jury against Clinton. The prosecutors also compiled a draft for an indictment against Clinton.

The Times has also put in a request for that, but the National Archives is still determining if the document could fall under secrecy rules for grand juries.

Starr's findings were not the first time a special counsel had determined a sitting president could be indicted. Watergate special counsel Leon Jaworski, in 1974, also got a memo from his staff saying then-President Richard Nixon could be indicted.

Starr, as well as Jaworski, chose to allow the matter proceed to impeachment, rather than indictments, but the memos bring up a possibility that former FBI Director Robert Mueller, in charge of the Russia investigation, could have options allowing him to proceed with a criminal case.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; grandjury; impeachment; indictment; russia; trump; trumprussia
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In addition, the Constitution and federal law does not ban presidents from being indicted, but others argue that the Constitution's "structural principles" forbid it.

In the Starr memo, Rotunda argued that if the "framers of the Constitution wanted to create a special immunity for the president, they could have written the relevant clause."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~The liberals have been planning on this since the day that we elected Donald J. Trump as our president.

1 posted on 07/22/2017 11:12:06 AM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

US law is now based on memos???


2 posted on 07/22/2017 11:12:55 AM PDT by mandaladon (It's always good to be underestimated. ~Donald Trump)
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To: mandaladon

What about the grasping at straws memo?


3 posted on 07/22/2017 11:16:14 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: mandaladon

A memo is not a law.


4 posted on 07/22/2017 11:16:15 AM PDT by dforest
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To: mandaladon

You can indict a ham sandwich


5 posted on 07/22/2017 11:16:22 AM PDT by cvan65 vet
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To: mandaladon

This is just the opinion of one professor! many professors have a different view! The damn NY Times is on an all out witch hunt to destroy OUR President and they don’t care if they take OUR country down in the meantime!


6 posted on 07/22/2017 11:17:32 AM PDT by mandaladon (It's always good to be underestimated. ~Donald Trump)
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To: ifinnegan

Donald Trump has not broken any law. Everything we have seen is that the democrat party members are crooks.


7 posted on 07/22/2017 11:17:55 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: mandaladon

Depends on who writes them. It would be a Supreme Court case. Indictment would have nothing directly to do with removal from office, which would still require the House and Senate.


8 posted on 07/22/2017 11:18:03 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: mandaladon

>>US law is now based on memos???

Not all memos. Just cherry-picked sentences from cherry-picked memos.

It is also based on court decisions from a single Circuit Court and not on legislative actions taken by Congress or by state legislatures.

But it is not based on enumerated rights in the US Constitution nor common sense, although “penumbras” can become law.

This is the heart of Progressive “governing”.


9 posted on 07/22/2017 11:18:23 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: mandaladon

In that case it should be no problem to indict former presidents, sec.s of state, AGs and so on and so forth.


10 posted on 07/22/2017 11:22:38 AM PDT by TigersEye (Investigate the Awan brothers and Wasserman Schultz)
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To: mandaladon

MEMO: to whom it may concern. NO ONE has crap on Trump.


11 posted on 07/22/2017 11:22:52 AM PDT by Leep (Less talk more ACTiON!)
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To: mandaladon

Obama armed AQ

W Clinton gave away missile technology

H Clinton gave away uranium

Trump did what?


12 posted on 07/22/2017 11:22:54 AM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: mandaladon
When I was in high school back in the 60's I was taught that a sitting president could possibly be indicted BUT the indictment must be sealed and remain top secret and should be considered a national secret UNTIL that president left his/her elected post upon which time the indicted would then be unsealed and s/he could be possibly prosecuted.

However I was also taught that prosecution under this scenario is merely speculation and has never been done in our nations history. It is uncharted territory for the lack of a better word.

13 posted on 07/22/2017 11:24:31 AM PDT by Ron H.
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To: mandaladon

No, but the dimwits are based on making retarded statements that have nothing to do with reality. Then they pretend, with the pleasure of the sicko media, who believe day is night and night is day, that it somehow applies to Trump.


14 posted on 07/22/2017 11:27:18 AM PDT by Leep (Less talk more ACTiON!)
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To: dforest

A memo is not a law.
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So, a law professor opines that a sitting president can be indicted. You know what you can do with that memo. Meanwhile, there are two OLC opinions, which are official opinions from the U.S. Justice Department that says just the opposite. Note there is no mention of the OLC opinions so we are left to conclude this is a deliberate omission and more contrived or fake news.


15 posted on 07/22/2017 11:28:02 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: mandaladon

The key words here are “ criminal acts contrary to official duties of the president”. Exactly what criminal acts has he committed?


16 posted on 07/22/2017 11:29:27 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: mandaladon

for serious criminal acts that are not part of, and are contrary to, the president’s official duties.”

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I take this to mean any “crimes” must have been committed while serving as president.


17 posted on 07/22/2017 11:30:14 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: minnesota_bound

Exactly. In firing Comey - for any reason - Trump was acting within his Constitutional powers. A President can legally fire an FBI director. It’s not obstructing justice because: there will be another FBI director, the investigation of Russia is on going in Congress, a President can express his opinion about any investigation, and because he has the power to pardon Flynn. Nothing here is independently unlawful.

Nixon conspired to commit a burglary. Clinton lied under oath. Both are acts that are independently unlawful.


18 posted on 07/22/2017 11:34:15 AM PDT by theoilpainter
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To: mandaladon

The President can be indicted. But he can also pardon himself. That’s why the Constitution permits the House to impeach the President, and permits the Senate to subsequently remove him from office.

Raising the issue is simply part of a coordinated campaign to create the impression in the public mind that the President has done something indictable and/or impeachable.


19 posted on 07/22/2017 11:34:28 AM PDT by sourcery (Non Acquiescit: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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To: mandaladon
Oh, let's go down this road, please!! We'll see how fast these un-United States become ungovernable, with those in power bringing up false charges. Then civility will end, the people will once and for all lose confidence in government beyond the county level, and then it become warring factions as we disintegrate.

But make no mistake. Liberal politicians and journalists will be the first to hang or be shot. A country doesn't implode without severe unintended consequences.

20 posted on 07/22/2017 11:37:43 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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