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But, but, but.................shannon promised that this would end all gun crimes and end all suicides and negligent discharges and.............. Somebody ought to pass a law..........Oh. As I recall, didn't the majority of the LEOs in WA say they didn't have the resources to enforce this BS anyway. And, they won't devote much, if any, time to enforcement?
1 posted on 10/13/2017 8:53:01 AM PDT by rktman
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The Guardian is to Americans what Der Sturmer was to Jews.


2 posted on 10/13/2017 8:55:36 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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When you have stupid legislatures like Diana Regret that think when a magazine is empty it is of no other use the laws are also useless. 55 Sheriffs of Colorado filed lawsuits against Colorado because of unenforceable laws to little avail. Ignorance is bliss in the Dome of Dummies in Denver.


3 posted on 10/13/2017 8:59:16 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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It IS BS. Before my unfortunate boating accident, I would frequent the classifieds of a few gun forums. Whenever someone would offer a gun for sell they were clear ID was mandatory and a CCL preferable. The community is very effective at self-policing. No one wants one of their guns going to the wrong type of character.


5 posted on 10/13/2017 9:00:18 AM PDT by moehoward
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“Universal background checks” is a euphemism for gun registration.
If every transfer is recorded, they know where to go for confiscation.
They thought we were stupid enough to go along with it.

WE WILL NOT COMPLY!

(NY and CT also found that out)


8 posted on 10/13/2017 9:03:29 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/14322-gun-owners-refuse-to-register-under-new-york-law

Gun grabbers tell Americans they must do something or cannot do something, and we refuse.
Where government fears the people, you have liberty.


9 posted on 10/13/2017 9:03:46 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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...As I recall, didn't the majority of the LEOs in WA say they didn't have the resources to enforce this BS anyway. And, they won't devote much, if any, time to enforcement?...

The problem here is that they don't have much time to devote to enforcement in general, but in specific cases they sure do.

Suppose you sell a gun to a trusted friend -- no problem, right? Well, suppose someone steals it from him and shoots the victim in a holdup. You can bet your bottom dollar that they will have plenty of time to trace that gun back to you and there will be dire consequences...

11 posted on 10/13/2017 9:04:41 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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true enough for Colorado:

1. Of the 64 counties in Colorado, something like 53 of the county Sheriffs announced that they were not going to enforce local registration or the magazine law because they are unenforceable.

2. And they have a point.The laws are so poorly written that merely handing a neighbor one of your firearms is a violation, and because existing magazines were grandfathered, and because magazines have no serial numbers it’s impossible to tell a “grandfathered” magazine from a “non-grandfathered” magazine.

3. To the best of my knowledge, no one in Colorado has ever been prosecuted for violation of either law. Most likely the laws would be struck down as unconstitutionally vague if a test case was every brought.

(The one interesting consequence of these laws is that they inadvertently made gun “buybacks” essentially impossible to conduct legally, something yours truly pointed out chapter and verse in a legal brief i published in a local newspaper comment section the first time a local Sheriff tried to facilitate one of these gun “buybacks”. Sheriff then had to publicly back off a few days later in the same newspaper, and there has never been another attempted gun “buyback” in Colorado since then.)


16 posted on 10/13/2017 9:20:04 AM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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It’s almost as if criminals don’t obey the law all the time.


18 posted on 10/13/2017 9:27:47 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Stone cold sober, like Mrs. Don-o.)
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Passing unconstitutional, unenforceable laws that [law abiding] citizens refuse to obey is destroying the respect for law in this country. A very slippery slope.

So, what will the leftist statists do? What they always do with a failed policy - double down.

What happens when liberals keep poking a very large bear with a stick?

We are going to find out.

It’s a matter of when, not if.


22 posted on 10/13/2017 9:34:27 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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I said from day 1, so-called “Universal Background Checks” were just a gateway to gun registration. As soon as the gun grabbers got universal background checks, they would suddenly “discover” (they actually knew all along) that the vast majority of private sellers would simply ignore the background check requirement and enforcement would be impossible because the government doesn’t have the slightest idea who owns what guns or when a private sale takes place. So the next step is going to be saying, “Wow, we just realized there is no actual way to track when a gun sale takes place because we have no list of who owns what.” We need a “common sense” registration system... something like an automobile title...so we can make sure the universal background check requirement is being followed and a record is kept anytime ownership is transferred!”


25 posted on 10/13/2017 9:39:07 AM PDT by apillar
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Many mass murderers commonly go thru background checks and pass them.

Most common criminals won’t do background checks even if they could pass them. They don’t want firearms tied or traced to them.


29 posted on 10/13/2017 9:50:30 AM PDT by umgud
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...the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed...


31 posted on 10/13/2017 9:52:43 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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The commies will respond to these facts by instituting yet more draconian consequences for failing to jump through their tyrannical bureaucratic hoops.


33 posted on 10/13/2017 9:54:37 AM PDT by Kalamata (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz)
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For example, Garen Wintemute, one of the Injury Prevention study’s authors, said the failures in Colorado and Washington state does not mean universal background checks are “no good.” Rather, it means “these policies may need more assertive enforcement.”

Scratch a liberal, find a storm trooper. What this one means is that an example must be set in order to terrorize the public into compliance. It really, really isn't going to work like that.

36 posted on 10/13/2017 10:06:31 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Imagine a gun registry law is passed nationally.

3 years later they take a tally and find only 40 million guns have been registered.

Only 10%?
Then what?

The Libs won’t advertise their failure!

BUT, The Pro-2A folks would be able to use the fact to laugh in the face of the tyrants and demand the useless law be banished.


41 posted on 10/13/2017 10:22:27 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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Laws against murder fail, because criminals fail to comply.


71 posted on 10/13/2017 4:55:07 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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